wrote s julia howard who the morning atin the hotel. she said in her own words, she a pencil by the candlelight that was available to her. wrote down what she says god gave her to write showed it to her daughter the next morning. it was all scripture that was town. en it formed a poem. her daughter said "mum, you published. this this is really good." they did. is to a publisher and they published it. hymn of created the battle the republic, that is now considered one of the most sung hymns in the united states, that we own. the you look at here is original letter that she wrote in this area. deals with ic that amazing grace, and the battle and other republic, pieces of music that represent struggle that was going on. this is one of my favourites because it's a story. ique many don't realize that the words themselves were taken biblical text that she said she was given to write down. sing f you now, when you that song. it. ll recognise you'll listen to the words, as quoted that are being in her song. there's a break here. throughout the

howard mark, cofounder and cochairman of oaktree capital. as is bloomberg. ♪ -- this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ julie: this is bloomberg markets. i'm julie hyman. and i'm juliaet back to our big story. lloyd blankfein is apparently repairing to step down from goldman sachs. earlier today, erik schatzker asked howard marks about the future of goldman sachs without blankfein. have lived through a lot of goldman sachs ceos, and they have been terrific. the copresidents today, dave ,olomon and harvey schwartz they are terrific. one or both, i assume one, will step in to lloyd's shoes at whatever time it is, and i am sure the firm will go on. when you do business with goldman sachs, you do not do business with lloyd blankfein every day. there are terrific people throughout the organization, as there are elsewhere. erik: again, oaktree has everycts with just about large financial services firm, not just in the united date but in the world. states but inted the world. to what degree is a firm defined by its ceo, and what allows it to continue uninterrupted, regardless of who is in the corner office? howard: that is a difficult question to answer. some firms are tra