meet julia marfeld who after pleasantries gets right down to it.n one of the most staggering conversations you may ever happen to overhear, she's planning her husband's murder. >> you said something about a gunshot, is that how you want me to do it, shoot him? >> unless you can do it painlessly, i would -- >> i would prefer to use either a knife or a gun. quick and easy. >> less painful. >> where do you want me to shoot him? do you want an open casket, closed casket, what do you want? >> i want an open casket. >> reporter: the stuff she's worried about, like the mess it might make -- >> in the house? >> it would be messy. >> reporter: she didn't need to worry about because her husband is still alive. the guy she's talking to on the right hand, he is an undercover police officer. so why not just divorce her husband? well, there was the insurance money to be had if they were dead. and then there were his feelings to consider. >> divorcing him, i didn't want to worry about the judgment of my family, i didn't have to worry about breaking his heart, stu