>> florence signa: 1941. >> julia reed: '41. start selling hot tamales to go. in the beginning, the place catered to the black community. but after word got out how good the food was, white people started coming. which led to a kind of weird accommodation to the segregation of the day. blacks came in the front, white people snuck in the back. the menu expanded with the clientele. what human qualities are unique or marked in the native of mississippi? >> julia reed: i cannot address mississippi 'cause like i said, the delta is a whole 'nother planet. >> anthony: wow. okay, better question then. how does the lifelong delta resident differ from the other -- >> julia reed: you had to be a little crazy to wanna come in the first place, 'cause it was like the swamps, buddy. it was under water. i mean, you had to be crazy to come, and you had to have enough money to make it work. so you had some sort of gamblers. i mean, that -- that spirit still infuses the place. it's a little reckless. it's sophisticated 'cause they'd all come from

i'm joined by julia reed. that's the long title. joining me is april ryan. what's changed? is this his bucket list? >> what's changed is he's older and more settled. this is something he's never accomplished before. something new for him. this is a, this potentially could be on his bucket list at age 69. >> he says he's going to release his tax returns. those are things that are specific. he knew he had to do it way back in 1999. why did he run? >> i don't think this is all well thought out as for an ordinary candidate like hillary clinton who has plotted this every step of the way for her entire life. i think his trick is to keep us talking about other things. he's going to talk about ted cruz' father and talk about pocahontas. if we're talking about that, we're not talking about his tax return returns. >> what are you hiding? if she talked like him, he'd be in trouble. >> if they can make it stick. >> there's no law that says he has to show the taxes. over the last 40 years these candidates have given their taxes. he looks like something is wrong. >> this election has pro