jonathan reynolds, julia reid. so i -- i was distilling all of these recipes as well. >> remarkable. i want to know about you. why are you this person as far as food goes? >> i think i've always been interested in food because my family has always been really -- my mother was a great cook. my grandmother was a cook cook. food was such a focus of our home. it's not like fancy food either. in fact, my mother i remember saying, she never bought mastering the art of french cooking because she couldn't afford the book. >> is that right? >> it was at a higher price point than she was comfortable spending on a cookbook. so -- but she made everything from scratch. she was kind of the classic kind of american home cook. she made pot roast and things like that. she made her own bread and she canned and she made jams. i think that all kind of -- it infused -- >> if you grew up in that environment, then surely you think this is something i want to do myself. >> but i never thought it was a profession. i thought everyone eats t