>> underneath the julian assange you wear the edward snowden jock strap. >> i knew i shouldn't have let do it. i knew it. >> you gave me that last week. >> and i told it for a reason. >> listen, they're only selling in one place, india, because over there assange is considered a god, i mean a cow. >> all right. bolder fresher show miller does a very interesting -- >> wait, you said bull. >> i said bolder fresher. his mother was a woman who could phrase things in a very pithy way. >> you'll have to bleep this but it's the essence of the thing. and when i was leaving pittsburgh as i went out the door my mom said to me, when i was going to l.a., she said don't become [ bleep ]. >> and that was it. that was the advice. >> billy, you know how short brief -- your whole life. every time i'd go to buy into it in l.a. i would remember my mom saying it. obviously you heard it bleeped at home. she said don't with a southern offramp, if you know what i mean. that sort of stuff makes life easy. >> and to this day you still hear your mom say that. >> whenever i go to do a thing that feels phony to me

>> underneath the julian assange you wear the edward snowden jock strap. >> i knew i shouldn't have leti knew it. >> you gave me that last week. >> and i told it for a reason. >> listen, they're only selling in one place, india, because over there assange is considered a god, i mean a cow. >> all right. bolder fresher show miller does a very interesting -- >> wait, you said bull. >> i said bolder fresher. his mother was a woman who could phrase things in a very pithy way. >> you'll have to bleep this but it's the essence of the thing. and when i was leaving pittsburgh as i went out the door my mom said to me, when i was going to l.a., she said don't become [ bleep ]. >> and that was it. that was the advice. >> billy, you know how short brief -- your whole life. every time i'd go to buy into it in l.a. i would remember my mom saying it. obviously you heard it bleeped at home. she said don't with a southern offramp, if you know what i mean. that sort of stuff makes life easy. >> and to this day you still hear your mom say that. >> whenever i go to do a thing that feels phony to me or feel

. >> in many ways, it was chelsea manning, wiki leaks and julian assange who first forced journalits t encryption a powerful tool and to do so on unprecedented scale. then came snowden. not many journalists can say they were there at the center of both stories the way james ball can. he was an in-house journalist at wiki leaks before joining the guardian where he worked on the snowden files with glen greenwald. you can bet the bulk of the e-mails relating to the nsa and gchq were encrypted. >> story did the nsa tapping into the cell phone has james ball's name on the by line. eventually, he was named as one of the recipients of the pulitzer prize the guardian won story. i sat down with james ball in london to get his take on encryption, source protection and journalism in the post edward snowden era. >> james ball of the guardian, today. >> thank you. >> in your communications when he was setting up the interview, did you en crypt it? >> we did not. >> why not? >> because unfortunately, while time. >> yes? >> in theory, in practice, you can't get anything done. every day we have to c

he is reminding me of julian assange. there is a bit of an ego that is quickly deflating and quickly run into the wall of reality. you are not that cool. it is not that glorious. >> i think the point you are missing is he is super cool. >> andy, why not just move in with him? >> with that stupid girlfriend? >> are you referring to the cat? all right, was the ebola e-bulla. on monday a man wearing a mask , joe, shouted "i have ebola" on a metro bus. it was likely bs, but the driver has been quarantined and is being investigated as a possible terrorist threat because of the fear it created. i wonder if the man said to the driver, don't mess with me because i have ebola. >> the man said to the driver "don't mess with me. i have ebola." when somebody comes on to a bus and makes a threat like that, the idea is to sew fear in people and that's terrorism. >> authorities believe it is a hoax, but still take precautions. meanwhile, americans are not feeling safe. a new poll shows 67%, that's a lot support bans on travel from ebola

whistleblower, thomas drake another nsa whistleblower, jacob applebaum training and intelligence and julian assange. i knew the government had an interest in these people and i felt it wasn't safe for me to travel with the footage. i had moved to berlin to edit. that is when i was in berlin that i received the first e-mail from edward snowden. >> let's go back to the first video of edward snowden that the world saw back in june 2013. you shot this inside his hong kong hotel room, then published on the guardian website. >> in a say in the intelligence community in general is focused on getting intelligence wherever it can by any means possible. it is believed -- a self certification that they serve national interest. originally, we saw that focus very narrowly tailored as far as for intelligence and it overseas. increasingly, we see it is happening domestically. and to do that, the nsa specifically targets the comedic and's of everyone. it in just them by default. it collects them in assistance and filters them and analyzes them and measures them and stores them for periods of time since the because

what are your thoughts on the media and the governments reaction to julian assange and the wiki links? wikileaks? >> neither one of us is the world leading authority. >> now i will pretend i am. [laughter] > it's the ambassador met with the head of state in the country and what the ambassador thanks. -- ambassador thinks. those documents don't have much standing in terms of the decision-making by the president , how much is controlled at the white house, the white house centric operation. people who have made claims that -- documents that tell you how the big decisions are made in government -- they are exaggerating. that is not the case. at the same time, it is useful information. the initial idea of the wholesale publication of hundreds of thousands of classified documents without -- you would never do it. you would say, read them. are we going to tell somebody about secret operations and get people killed unnecessarily? you were always emphatic about that. wikileaks is being more careful now. wikileaks will not go down in history. the pentagon papers due and will always. >> i have

julian assange nehr from the "national review" is here. let me get this right. more than 40. >> 42.ment to start requiring able-bodied adults to actually work for their food stamp benefits longer and three months. stuart: one of the requirements right now if you are able-bodied, no dependents, able to work but you are not, should you be collecting food stamps? >> the law says in 1996 there were welfare reform that if you're able-bodied, don't have dependents, on food stamps long been two quince you should spend 20 hours a week working or volunteering, getting a job and training. you can still collect them but have to do something productive. stuart: there are hundreds of thousands of people in that situation but not fulfilling that work requirement. >> that is because states go to the federal government and make the argument there economy isn't good enough and get a waiver but when i am looking at it more than one thousand 900 days past the recession the economy is supposed to be getting better and i think it is time for able-bodied adults who have the time to work, time to voluntee