julian assange worked with the "new york times" with regarding, the largest newspapers in the world tot lives and other legitimate interest of innocent people. so as long as it's done responsibly that kenny is a pure heroism. they're risking their lives to inform the citizenry about things we ought to know. >> host: glenn greenwald, that is some of your american experience but now you've taken your job to brazil. how did you get down there? >> guest: i had been visiting brazil quite a bit in the late 90s and early 2000s. i was working as as a lawyerw york at the time, and really just a place we all find this place is that resonate with our soul that speak to us. i was always overwhelmed by its beauty but then in 2005 i went there i intend just day seven weeks. i met my now husband of 17 years. at the time the defense of marriage act was a law under clinton years. .. they've erected first in the name of fighting communism then in the name of fighting terrorism and our whole variety of other justifications and people like assange and snowed in and chelsea manning are devoted to the idea

and the british prison, you'll notice you haven't heard from julian assange for three years because he's barred from being interviewed. they won't let him be interviewed. they will want to be photograph. and the argument is a pre-tax, which is prison security, but it's one that the west uses just as readily as the brazilians are using it used to back then to bar interviews with with louis. so i know it sounds drastic, but it's something that we have here in the us and the uk as well mr. greenwald is your brazilian source has he or she ever been identified the federal police? announce that they found the source and arrested a ring of six people they claim or responsible for that hacking. the person they accused of having been my sores has publicly assumed responsibility for that. i've never confirmed your denied it in part because i never knew the identity of my source. i have my suspicions but if the source wants to say that they're the ones who did it. that's their right, but i'm not gonna help the government by saying that i believe it is or is it when you receive those documents

. >> host: there is a debate about juliana's orange -- julian assange, are they heroes or villains?>> guest: one of the things i discovered in my work as a journalist that i didn't previously know is the extent to which everything in washington is done behind a wall of secrecy. almost everybody agrees some things the government does should be secret, troop movements in a war, you have a right to keep that secret, if there's a grand jury investigation but we should know what the government is doing and they out to know little about what we are doing, that's the idea. it is completely reversed where they know everything about us and that we know nothing about what they are doing because of this wall of secrecy they erected for fighting communism or terrorism and a whole variety of other justifications and people like assange are devoted to the idea that in a democracy it's necessary the citizenry learn not everything but the important things with the government is doing. how can we have a meaningful election, voting for leaders are parties when we don't know anything about what they a

now the you carry home secretary did approve the extradition of julian assange because u. s. officials have promised to treat him humanely, whatever that me. so at the moment you innocent is legal team is appealing that decision that he would be expedited to the united states. okay, thanks so much the rest of the stayed on la. oh is that so can do. thanks for joining us. you can say this but now in nuclear disarmament tells us in russia and at the u. s. over unexpectedly, the spurn. just a day ahead of a scheduled meeting in cairo. rashanda us would you to discuss resuming mutual inspections on the, the new strategy teams arms reduction, treating commonly known as thought. now ortiz maria phenomena has the details. when i hear from russia's foreign ministry, that the session of the bilateral consultative commission on the russian american star treaty, there was supposed to begin its work on tuesday in cairo. and last for 8 days has been postponed to a later day to the ministry does not indicate the reason for that. but i have to say that it was very unexpected. our tea cre

home secretary did approve the extradition of julian assange because u. s. officials have promised to treat him humanely, whatever that means. so at the moment, julianna's on his legal team is appealing that decision that he would be extradited to the united states. let's stay with the story because it is an intriguing aspect, isn't it? american, legal and meet unless lionel he's hot his say to r t, stating why he's unclear why the western media suddenly changing is true about assange, but it shouldn't be forgotten. he outs how they portray them previously. if you listen to this. absolutely implicit in feckless commentary by today's canoe shanty, just making fun of the way he looks, you know why he looks like that. let me tell you, it's called torture. that's why you look like. and i like to see any of those brave journalists see if they could within a week of this, this is something which absolutely galls me. julian assigned whether you like him or not, whether you care for his personality is a hero. something must be happening. why all of a sudden, what

in a sense, you put an awful lot of trust into wikileaks and julian assange. do you regret that?ould... if they were not available, i would have uploaded this information separately. i was in a position where if i didn't have a publisher of last resort, because i was struggling with the new york times, i was struggling with the washington post — the washington post was the one that i really wanted to get to and the one that i had the most sort of interaction with — then i was going to use some other tool like bittorrent or something like that, to post this information, which would have been... that would have been my even more of a last resort. that would have been my more desperate. right. you did the war logs and the war diaries dump and then you then released all of these diplomatic cables, which had different kinds of information, secret confidential information involving the us government's contacts with individuals on the ground and a whole host of countries. just to take one small example, but not small to the individual involved, an ethiopian journalist, reporter argaw as

so i do admire people like ed snowden and julian assange.the billion-dollar corporations are not doing their job. the broke entrepreneurial people that soviet. host. >> we look forward to booktv session. >> thank you

julian assange, who is jailed in britain, faces up to 175 years in a u.s. prison on espionage and hacking charges for exposing u.s. war crimes in afghanistan and iraq. the five publications, which also include "le monde," "der spiegel," and "el paÍs," had partnered with wikileaks in 2010 to report on documents leaked by chelsea manning. the biden administration has eased some sanctions on venezuela and has given chevron approval to resume pumping oil in venezuela. the announcement came after the government of president nicolÁs maduro resumed talks with venezuelan opposition groups in mexico city to address venezuela's economic and humanitarian crisis. in news from the occupied west bank, israeli military forces have demolished a palestinian primary school south of hebron. video posted online shows young palestinian students in tears as they had to leave their classroom before a bulldozer destroyed their school in masafer yatta. the israeli human rights group b'tselem condemned the school demolition saying -- "this is part of a state effort to drive palestin

i admire julian assange. i admire mike wallace. i don't know what's happened.ow why the billion-dollar corporations are not doing the job. it's left scrappy, broke entrepreneurial enterprising people, but so be it. >> host: james o'keefe, project veritas and the author of this book, "american muckraker: rethinking journalism for the 21st century." we appreciate your time on booktv. >> guest: thank you. >> if you are enjoying booktv then sign up for our newsletter using the qr code on the screen to see the schedule of upcoming programs, author discussion, book festival and more. booktv, every sunday on c-span2 or anytime online at booktv.org. television . television for serious readers. weekends on c-span2 are an intellectual feast. every saturday american history tv documents america's stories, and on sundays booktv brings you the latest in nonfiction books and authors. funding for c-span2 come from these television companies and more including midscale. ♪ -- midco. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> midco, along with these television companies, , supports c-span2 as a public servic

now the you carry home secretary did approve the extradition of julian assange because u. s. officials have promised to treat him humanely, whatever that means. so at the moment julian assigned his legal team is appealing that decision that he would be extradited to the united states. last cloth live down to one of my favorite media and legal alice lima. thanks for joining us. great to have you on the program. our haley of the west to me the i'm, it's flip flopping again. would you make of it skids so phrenic i, i can't believe what i was hearing. let me start off with an obvious take from an american point of view as a lawyer, as a former prosecutor, in our country. we have a very simple role. if you was a journalist or a publisher, received something from someone else. and that information which you have received was in fact stolen per a loin snatched illegally through some trespass. oriole taking. it doesn't matter because you are still a journalist, a publisher, and your cloaked by our beloved 1st amendment. freedom of the press, the 1st of the amendment. it was that im

and in fact thanks to julian assange, who's currently writing in prison for publishing this information, anyone can read it. wikileaks org from february 2nd of 2008. it's our current cia director, william burns was then the ambassador to russia, and he wrote a memo to condoleezza called nyet means yet. and he said, i just met with sergei lavrov, the foreign minister. he explained in no uncertain terms that they just absolutely will not accept us bringing ukraine into nato's if it comes down to it, they'll essentially invade and conquer ukraine before. they let us bring it in nato and. so mr. lavrov is begging us to just not try it and i think the language is there that could cause civil war and then we would be forced to intervene. and we don't want to have to that decision. lavrov says, which is four months later, bush tried to bring them into nato's, and the only reason he wasn't able was because germany and france absolutely put their foot down. and why? only for one reason. it will unnecessarily provoke conflict with russia. otherwise, why not accept that it would a problem and they

now the you carry home secretary did approve the extradition of julian assange because u. s. officials have promised to treat him humanely, whatever that means. so at the moment julian assigned his legal team is appealing that decision that he would be extradited to the united states. we heard from legal on media analyst lionel, who says he supplies were high, luasa media is now changes shewn about the song. if you listen to this, absolutely imprison feckless commentary by today's canoe shanty, just making fun of the way he looks, you know why he looks like that. let me tell you, it's called torture. that's why you look like that. and i like to see any of those brave journalist see if they can withstand a week of this. this is something which absolutely galls me. julian assigned whether you like him or not, whether you care for his personality is a hero. something must be happening. why all of a sudden, what changed? what information are they privy to? what sensibility were they exposed to that made them say, wait a minute. oh, by the way, all collectively, simultaneously i

in fact, thanks to julian assange who is currently rotting in prison for publishing this information,anyone can read it, wikileaks.org, from february 2, 2008, it's our current cia director william burns who was then the ambassador to russia,, and he wrote a memo to condeleezza rice called me yet means yet. he's had just met with sergey lavrov the foreign minister and he appointed no uncertain terms they just absolutely will not except as bring ukraine into nato the comstat to fill essentially invade and conquer ukraine before the let us bring it into nato. and so mr. lavrov is begging us to just not try it. i think the language is there. that could cause a civil war and we would be forced to intervene and we don't want to have to make that decision. lavrov says. four months later bush tried to bring them into nato and the only reason he wasn't able to was because germany and france absolutely put their foot down, and why? only for one reason. it will unnecessarily provoke conflict with russia. otherwise, why not? they didn't care except that would cause a problem and he knew it. so in

okay, something else to tell you about today after years of smearing julian assange several major, a western media outlets, i've made an abrupt you turn, they're not calling for the u. s. government to end it's case against the wiki leaks co fighter. this group of editors and publishers, all of whom had worked with the sancha, felt the need to publicly criticize his conduct in 2011. but we come together now to express our grave concerns about the continued prosecution of julian, a sorry for obtaining and publishing classified materials. this indictment sets a dangerous precedent and threatens to undermine americans 1st amendment and the freedom of the press. well, it certainly makes sense that major news outlets would speak up about the fact that a journalist who published information has been stripped of his human rights as being threatened with extra dish and prosecution under the espionage act in the united states. but what many have note it is that this statement seems to very much contradict the town of these publications earlier. and we will note that when julian assigned was b

previously running down the character of the whistleblower and helping to build a case against him. julian assange faces up to 175 years in prison if found guilty of espionage charges by the u. s. he currently remains in custody in britain, pending washington's extradition request. american legal and media analyst lionel says it's unclear by the western media, suddenly changing its tone about a song, but their previous smears against him should not be forgotten. if you listen to this. absolutely implicit in feckless commentary by today's a canoe shanty. just making fun of the way he looks, you know why he looks like that. let me tell you, it's called torture. that's why you look like that. and i like to see any of those brave journalist see if they can withstand a week of this. this is something which absolutely galls me. julian assigned, wendy. why come or not? whether you care for his personality? is a hero. something must be happening. why all of a sudden, what changed? what information are they privy to? what sensibility were they exposed to that made them say, wait a minute. oh, by the way, a

s. government to end its prosecution of julian assange for publishing secrets. publishing is not a cry, not a crime, but a sanchez, long running legal ordeal is already taken a heavy toll. the australian national hasn't been a free man for more than a decade since he fled to ecuador is embassy in london. back in 2012. he's been at a higher security gel cell in london since 2019 where his lawyers say his health has been deteriorated. and if expedited to the us, he faces a sentence of up to get this 175 years under the espionage act. it publishing is on a cry, the punishment for julian to sonjee. it's very, ah, the greatest president modem is a lensky, as warned to his country to prepare for a new wave of russian air strikes. li declaring that as long as moscow has missiles, it will not rest. last week's intense russian airstrikes caused the most damage to the countries power grid that we have seen since the war began in february. millions remained without electricity or heat. authorities do say, however, it power and water supply from the capital key are now being restored. with an incr

reporter: these organizations work with julian assange prior to the classification -- they're asking the espionage act to be dropped put forward by the trump administration. john: we are aware of it and we would refer you to the justice department. reporter: what is the national security council assessment of the harm that was done by the wikileaks leak of 2012 that would inform decisions by the justice department? >> if you look at how the administration responded in 2012, president biden was vice president at the time we would maintain that will be set at the time, what was said at the time. that those leaks, those revelations in the public's where damaging to u.s. national security. reporter: the head of nato is warning they will be using winter as a weapon of war against ukraine. what is the end using in conjunction with his partners and allies to counter that given the attack on the energy grid? john: you are referring to is targeting of civilian infrastructure. he has used food as a weapon, fear as a weapon. as a secretary general of nato says he is now using the coming cold we

c. global have come forward and confirm that they were indeed bugging and spying on julian assange and his associates. there is testimony from former u. c. global employees. they were investigated in spain. now it's interesting to note the lawsuit specifically talks about mike pompei up and his role is the director according to reports. he was obsessed with julian, a sound you that sketches made about possible methods of assassinating doing it's on the civil rights attorney who is representing the, the plaintiff in this lawsuit. she gave specific comments regarding the former, the director mike pale. if a foreign journalist can be prosecuted for publishing factual documents, then no journalist is safe. and apparently mike pompeo believes that attorneys representing journalists, should not be safe either. these actions are outrageous. now the irony is that this law suit was served to mike on the very same day that the current us secretary of state the tweeting out about support for journalists. then freedom of the press. now it's important to know that currently juliana don is being hel

the guy went in looking like draco malfoy came out with like dumbledore, a wiki lease founder julian assange, was also arrested in london where he was dragged out of the ecuadorian embassy, looking like santa claus with a manifesto. ah, you're all not a, i have it on my look. look at him like in just a few years, he went from bond villain to crowd surfing habits. now, while focusing on obscure criticisms of his on his personality or his appearance, mainstream media seemed to have forgotten what he reveal review the revelation is about real crimes and real scandals that came to light due to work a wiki leaks ah, ah, a now the biden administration has given no indication that they have any intention of dropping the charges or the expedition case. again, julie in the u. s. department of justice says they continue to pursue extradition and that they will continue to pursue extradition for the time being now the u. k. home secretary did approve the extradition of juliana staunch because us officials have promised to treat him humanely. whatever that means. so at the moment, julian, it's on his le

and journalists to the cia and its former chief mike pompeo for spying on them while they met julian assange. when he was living at the ecuadorian embassy in london. ah, all right, reporting from all corners of the globe from moscow. it's great to have you with us with this ours program on our team. so a spokesperson for the party of the former pakistan prime minister, enron khan has actually now accused the sitting prime minister of involvement in the assassination attempt. as i'm sure, you know, con was shot in the leg during a protest march. today, the gunman reported, confessed that, con, was his soul target. now in the aftermath of the attack, thousands of con, support has hit the streets to protest and cities nationwide. of course, including the capital islamabad. flames and smoke could be seen as protest is burn tires and other objects well, chanting, anti government slogans. the following images show the exact moment of theatre. ah, ah, the suspect allegedly confessed and said he had acted alone. however, it's not clear under what conditions he made his statement. the con, had been l

in britain, julian assange is awaiting a rest by british police, but the wiggly eggs found a remains defiant, suggesting the u. s. is out to kill him tonight. assange isn't relenting, suggesting that if anything happens to him, all the remaining secret cables will be released to the world at once. governments quickly conquered the digital world invading by force and with warlike interests. wikileaks soon learned that revealing the secrets of the powerful can lead to punishment. i learned from the fate of assange, that there are a red lines that are better not crossed. drastic security measures became necessary . different governments around the world, pressured pay pal and visa, and other payment providers to sensor their transactions. because wiki leeks was deemed dangerous after leaking information. so wiki riggs turned a bit coin, which was permissional us as a way to accept donations. and i think that was a another really cool testament to be quench resiliency and use case of permissions . my no one can take that money away from you and no one can stop it from being sent to you.

government to drop charges against jewe julian assange. the wi wikileaks founder was arrested. >> is government ready to give up the grudge? i think s they should, hannah. >> finally. better late than never. many of us have been speaking out about this this is a real litmus test for free speech and freedom of the press, assange has been persecuted by governments in the world this a serious thing. would think that journalists and others in media would be equally concerned about treatment of this man who did nothing but tell the american people when their government was doing with their tax dollars, he let us know about war crimes we were committing and made it potential f possible for people to participate, that is why you need a free press. everyone should be up in arms over his treatment. he is a political prisoner, and need to be freed biden i do not believe would pardon him. i don't have a lot of hope but we need to see employ up in arms about these, they are heroes they deserve to be treated as such. >> right, and for freedom. lesley?

reporter: these organizations work with julian assange prior to the classification -- they're asking the espionage act to be dropped put forward by the trump administration. john: we are aware of it and we would refer you to the justice department. reporter: what is the national security council assessment of the harm that was done by the wikileaks leak of 2012 that would inform decisions by the justice department? >> if you look at how the administration responded in 2012, president biden was vice president at the time we would maintain that will be set at the time, what was said at the time. that those leaks, those revelations in the public's where damaging to u.s. national security. reporter: the head of nato is warning they will be using winter as a weapon of war against ukraine. what is the end using in conjunction with his partners and allies to counter that given the attack on the energy grid? john: you are referring to is targeting of civilian infrastructure. he has used food as a weapon, fear as a weapon. as a secretary general of nato says he is now using the coming cold we

none of the european deputies put up photos, as they took custody of the real political prisoner julian assange, who simply told the whole truth about western politicians, and they made his life hell, but support assange. it means to recognize the authoritarianism and complete hypocrisy of the us political system. and this is an untouchable caste in western civilization. and their task is to discredit the normally working system of those who interfere, who are competitors, who are located geographically in the center of europe, do not want to become a colony of the collective west. go for this cheap stuffing of european parliamentarians and their propaganda or not be conducted by everyone's choice, but blindly believe them. this, in my opinion, is no longer self-respecting. very busy, and then a vacation, all the values ​​​​that the west so wanted to impose on us collapsed and nullified in an instant and did it all the countries of euro-democracy themselves do not count on the sports arbitration court and there is no point in filing an appeal there, this is how the head of the belarusian paraly

asked two days ago i get asked these questions that are so hard like aren't you gonna end up like julian assange? i mean, i don't even know know how to answer that. i mean am i gonna end up in solitary solitary confinement? i don't know. but we're all gonna die. it's the only certainty death and taxes. so i'm gonna follow my conscience and do the right thing. that's thing. that's what i'm gonna do. that's how that's that. people. say how to use. how do you get any rest? well, that's how i sleep at night because i do follow my conscience. so on that day in my apartment building. yes, i was in danger you could say i was in danger when you're whenever you're like incarcerated or in handcuffs or you have federal agents a pounding on your door with a battering ram. it's safe to say that you're in danger. so this happens and it was a gross violation. of my constitutional rights your constitutional rights because the first amendment is the right in the bill of rights that make all of her other rights possible if you don't have an informed population you have nothing if they are doing this to journalist

julian assange is a criminaloun >> i mean, maybe we're in own the habit of just accepting the most ludicrousssiblehabi claims and moving on to the next thing that'of ts feels like where we are. ria ne i mean, i remember victoriwlate nuland, who's the state department official in chargeal of ukraine, went before i congress and sai ofd, we're reay worried that the u.s. and ukraine have biological jobs that are very dangerous. and if they fall into the russian hands, that can be a disaster. they fen be aand then he would , wait, what does she mean? was instantly branded a conspiracy theorist?d how many people are called conspiracy theorists? may they question whether a vaccine works the way they were told to work or anything else? this i is what they do, is demonize questioning. >> that was you on that night. >> what biolabs in ukraine? shut up, putin apologist for what glenn greenwald always do, like a palate cleanser of the fresh air of sanity coming into the studio. >> thank you very much. your thanks, drpa.. >> so crime in the united states is out of control. it's not a n overstatement. ont