maryland congresswoman donna edwards, political pollster cornell belcher, democratic strategist julian epstein. julian, when you look at these numbers, sometimes we have to focus on the facts in front of our face. does it show people are listening, and even those who, as i mentioned with independents last month, were in the 40s, are dropping in response to what they've learned just in the last three weeks? >> i think the obvious answer to that question is yes. august was kind of a scorched month, a scorched earth month for this white house. i don't think any white house has ever had an august that was as bad as the last month was, save for maybe august of 1973 and the nixon white house. the numbers are going down not just with independents but with college-educated women, with noncollege educated white men. so this is a situation that is just getting worse and worse. what's most remarkable to me about this white house is not just that they've boxed themselves in, so many different situations with so many different scandals, is just they have no idea how to kind of get themselves out of the mes

julian epstein, former staff director at the house oversight committee and democratic strategist.ant to get -- if you get to the background of this and how he was approached by these people and how they were sort of two weeks apart and suddenly getting to know this person they never knew before, wasn't sure why they were reaching out to him suddenly, this is what he said when sean hannity asked him if he thought he was being set up. >> do you think you are set up and made all these random people >> london was a strange city for me. i am a professor. i met downer there -- >> we learn. you liked gin and tonic's when you were talking to downer. >> i admitted to never -- i remember a lot about that meeting. i remember the context of that meeting. it wasn't not under extremely suspicious circumstances. >> martha: julian, what do you think about all that? >> i think there are good pushback for the trump team on the russian investigation. the best pushback is there is no evidence that president trump had any -- we know from numerous published reports that when he was a foreign policy adv

julian epstein, chief counsel to the democrats on the house judiciary committee and the sweet spot ofhe story, and he joins us. so julian, i want to put on the screen a tweet that went out today, because so much political debate does take place on social media. this was one of the trending tweets on twitter. it is from a woman called amy siskind and it says this "what was that, she is giving the white power sign right behind him during this hearing, this alone should the woman behind zina bash, the disqualify." white supremacist is not white,i she is hispanic and also jewish. that is lunatic, and it trended, got 15,000 likes almost immediately, what does that tell you about the state of the left? >> it tells me that our politics are broken. you see examples of this type of lunacy on the left and the right and it has no place in our politics.an and i think that it is an inevitable result of the social media echo chamber that drive so much of politics and it is very unfortunate. i agree a lot with what britt said and whatid you said, at thi hearing, i think it i think histrionics were h

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