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julian melcher, columnist for "national review." fellow at franklin center. with me in studio.oughout the city of new york. you found yourself with three phones in the end. i want to get to your story in a moment, with regard to senator sessions what can he do here, what is he after? >> he is after answers why fraud and abuse are so prolific in this program and it's a fair program. costs have soared since 2008 when cell phones were added. what may be missed in the debate this is an integral problem. the problems with the program, fraud and abuse are built in structurally. because they provide perverse incentives to the phone companies to push as many out on the street. bill: the phone companies get the money because they have the statement on the bill universal -- >> universal service fund. bill: that is on your bill. this started in the mid 1980s with land lines back then. the program was increased in 2008. but why the increase so sub songsly in the past five years? >> part of it is a lot harder to take a land line to a pawn shop and sell it than it is to take a cell phone. pa