. >> we are talking with julian pecquet. in interest of full disclosure, brian lamm did send a letter to chief justice john roberts requesting that cameras be allowed in for the health care debate. we have not heard back from the chief justice. we have heard, julian, from the justices during the confirmation hearings. does that give us any insight into the cameras in the chambers? >> i went through the articles. there seems to be a breakdown with the newer justices and the one whos who have gone longer. recent justices have had experience at the appeals court level with cameras and didn't seem to think they were a problem. i don't want to say old justices, clarence thomas and anthony scalia and david sutter said cameras would only roll over his dead body. there seems to be a generational gap. it is important to point out that even the justices who are the most keen to having cameras have made it clear that they would never impose that on their colleagues. if their colleagues are not happy with cameras, they are not going to