julian robertson was bill hwang's mentor.o it is not surprising that he has positive things to say, personally i wouldn't be surprised if he has an economic interest in his success as well. so you have to kind of judge the source. not like a unbunch of people are coming out supporting him. it is his former mentor supporting him. that is one. certainly the playing field isn't even. the same rules don't apply to everyone. if julian robertson wants to invest in bill hwang again he is entitled to do so with his own money. when it becomes critical he is doing it with his funds and other people's money. that is i personally have a problem with it. charles: right. oliver, great seeing you my man. bring you back real soon. lots of market stuff to talk about. see you soon. joining me now, bell couldn't chief strategist, david nelson, courtney dominguez, senior wealth advisor of payne capital management. i'm not affiliated with that group if you drew a ven diagram and with gamestop and they would intersect at lack of transparency. mayb

tiger cub, so he's an elite hedge fund individual who created their own fund after working with julian robertson at tiger management. that happened in 2001 and then a few years later, the sec charging him with insider trading. he pleaded guilty to charges of wire fun -- wire fraud. keep in mind they paid about $60 million in penalties for illegal trades with some of the chinese firms they were invested in. this is someone, not a known name to wall street, but he's facing his second major scandal. that's the person behind it, but there are stock names behind it. tim: you heard joe and romain mention some of these names and some of them got clobbered. numerous is down, credit suisse is down, viacomcbs finishing the day lower by more than 6.7 percent after being down 50% over the last week and 55% in the last five days. discovery finishing the day down , more than 45% over the last week. romaine: one thing that is interesting is not everything that's unwound but everything we know about bill hwang and how this all unfolded. a great story on the bloomberg terminal was by erik schatzker who broke thi

. >> i've tremendous respect for julian robertson you have to have he's terrific and great he's chose a level of loyalty there and maybe we have to wait and see whether there are actually some charges brought but i do think the level of leverage was, let's be really kind and say irresponsible. and i don't want my money with irresponsible people, even though julian robertson is willing to lend his support. i think it is great that he feels so again, that he feels kinship. but the judgment here is i think that you want to stay away at all costs >> right meanwhile some of the names that got dumped, archegos had a good morning. baidu. for a fech gsx. tencent. >> i think the chinese market is not that good and those guys can bounce all they want but i don't want to be there i try there were some pieces about viacom viacom has got on the a level that is now interesting and that was a piece that caught my attention as credit suisse credit suisse beats viacom back to basics, postbubble. i like that piece. shows they have waited and waited and now they have a chance and i wish there were bette