julian simon was the great sparring partner of the doom monger and he won a famous bet which i won'tinto here. julian simon was once giving, was on a panel in london talking about the environment, and the woman before him showed him what a dramatic improvement to the air quality, the introduction of a clean air act in london have had. and julian simon, what a masterstroke this was, produced a graph of his own going back much, much earlier showing the air quality had been improving anyway. the palu should was going down -- the pollution was going down quite natural to the process, this yearning i mentioned before to make things even cleaner. there is this fantasy that environmentalists nurture that without them, without their intervention the world would go to hell in a hand cart. i would contend this is a much not the case. i hope that answers your question. >> could you tell us something about shifts in public opinion, if any, in britain in the wake of the climate gauge scandal which showed massive pollution and corruption across the board got? among those scientists who recipients

julian simon was once in london talking about the environment, and the war went on before him and showed him what a dramatic improvement to the air quality the introduction of the clean air act in london had had, and julian simon, what a master stroke of this was, produced his own goes back much earlier showing their quality has been in purging anyway. the pollution was going down quite naturally through the natural economic process. this year nine mentioned before to make things clean. there is this fantasy that environmentalists nurture that without them, without their intervention the world would go to hell in a handcart. i would contend that this is very much not the case. i hope i kind of answered the question. yes? >> the natural center for public policy research. can you tell us something about the shift in public opinion if any in britain in the wake of the climategate scandal which showed massive collusion and corruption across the board along those scientists who work recipient of the largesse to carry out the climate research? is the environmental movement in britain and a res