. >>> we talked to historian julian zelizer about the campaign, the legal fight that followed and how it relates to 2016. this is 45 minutes. >> host: julian zelizer with princeton university, history and public affairs professor and the author of the book the fierce urgency of now. thanks for joining us this morning. >> during this campaign at some point raised the specter of wha happened between george w. bush and al gore. could you paint a picture of not only what's been said about it in the context of this campaign but if there is a merit to those campaigns? >> guest: it was a close election and there was a dispute about the account in florida looking at particular ballots in certain counties and what we saw after was a process where there were recounts over contested votes that ultimately ended in the supreme court's decision.od that is different from what we are hearing today. today we've heard from donald trump may be in the last month about the idea of a raid election where it's not about the contested ballots after the election in certain areas but the entire political system

host: julian zelizer at princeton university. the author of "the fierce urgency of now."

. >>> we talked to historian julian zelizer about the campaign, the legal fight that followed and howhe author of the book the fierce urgency of now. thanks for joining us this morning. >> during this campaign at some point raised the specter of wha happened between george w. bush and al gore.

joining us next is julian zelizer.er on in the program, new york times supreme court reporter adam liptak to discuss state judges who are elected to their positions and to see it they can remain independent in their rulings. that conversation taking place when "washington journal" continues. ♪ i think most of us when we think about winston churchill, we think of the older man sending young men into war. no one knew better and few new ,s well the realities of war the terror and devastation. he said to his mother after his second war, you cannot gild it -- he absolutely new the disaster that war was. muillat talks about the military career of winston churchill. >> he says, give me a regiment. i want to go and fight. he ends up going with a regiment to pretoria on the day it fell to the british. he takes over the prison and he frees the men who have been his in prisonsoners, puts his former jailers and watches as the boer flag is torn down and the union jack is listed in its place. place.ed in its , we areweek on c-span2

host: julian zelizer comparing this in the modern days, even going back to 2000 examining the aspects of that. you can ask him questions on the phone lines this morning. for democrats, 202-748-8920. 202-748-8000.s, 202-847-8001.s, i know that's speculative at best considering the turnout but what's being prepared by both campaigns and are there lessons learned for the political process from what we gained from 2000? guest: well, both campaigns are preparing for any kind of challenges that might take lace in close election contests after election day. one thing we have to remember, in 2000 the election was extraordinarily close. so neither candidate was either -- was able initially to reach that electoral college total and that's why the 25 votes in florida mattered so much. we're not sure where things are right now. at least a week ago it looked like hillary clinton might have a pretty substantial lead in which case, you know, the trump campaign could try to obtain recounts in any close states. but it was less likely what we saw in florida. we don't know if the news and the letter fro

analyst and senior editor for the atlantic ron brownstein, and cnn contributor and his for an julian zelizer. >> happy thanksgiving. >> happy thanksgiving. >> julian i want to start with you. what we know now is there is some diversity in terms of the picks, nikki haley or u.n. ambassador, betsy devos for education secretary, maybe ben carson for hud. your point is gentlemen, gender and racial diversity, not ideological diversity. should we be expecting ideological diversity in the cabinet? >> we shouldn't be expecting it at this point. i think he's given the signal, president-elect trump that he will stay to the right. and all of these picks, haley, comes from the tea party movement, devos is a major conservative player, not only in education, but in all sorts of issues, as is ben carson. so i think he's also sending a signal that republicans on the hill, i'm very much on your team. >> but what about in terms of diversity of the picks, ron i'll pose this to you, governor mitt romney as a potential pick for secretary of state. i mean when you look back at their record, not just the verbal vi

. >> sam wong, julian zelizer, two colleagues from princeton.hank you for being here. >> thank you. >>> still to come, a story of alleged voter intimidation in my hometown of philadelphia has become the stuff of urban lure. well, i went back to the scene and i will tell you the full story of what happened when two new black panthers showed up at a polling place in 2008. >>> and it often correctly mirrors the final results. so what do the numbers show of a poll taken of k through 12 students and here are some early tweets -- >> if hillary wins, absolutely no unity, i will and trump supporters never accept a law-breaking crook like hlry. come on, man, wednesday it's got to change. is there another one? that distresses me. i'm sorry i could never ever embrace donald trump. it would go -- i'm not asking you to forget everything, but i'm saying we need to wipe the slate clean come wednesday and get it together. back in a minute. ♪ one day a rider made a decision. the decision to ride on and save money. he decided to save money by switching his motorc

steve cortes, julian zelizer and alice stewart, cnn political commentator and former ted cruz communications director. thank you for coming in on thanksgiving and being part of our panel. we really really appreciate it. julian, i want to start with you for context. i was just talking to jason carroll, is it significant that trump is skipping his top secret intel briefings? >> i think it is significant. obviously within the recent years where the story focuses on, he's receiving fewer briefings than before and we are talking about a president-elect who had much less experience in this realm than some of the others, both in government and obviously in national security. so given the kinds of challenges we face, this was one of the things his supporters and opponents were hoping for that there would be a lot of information coming his way. >> but couldn't the argument be made that he's president-elect, he's not president yet, he's busy putting people in his cabinet and making sure he builds a strong administration, julian? >> sure, you can make that, but you can also receive the briefings as the

and julian zelizer, historian at princeton. fuels the anger, spoking hate, demagoguery that sometimes raises but does not elevate all the way. he does this time what does it mean? >> i think he promoted fear, franklin roosevelt, we have nothing to fear but fear itself. he made americans feel very afraid. very afraid about isis. very afraid about immigrants. very afraid about muslims, even your neighbors. and mccarthy, to kind of paper out mccarthyism. there was a no nothing party in the 19th century. but now, he's president. can he not be that way? can he be a uniter like i thought was a quite eloquent victory speech. >> you know what would have been historic about hillary clinton's win. what's so historic about donald trump's? >> obviously you have somebody who has no experience in politics. >> and that's never happened before? >> dwight iceisenhower. but hoover, but that's different. someone who played to the fringe elements of american society. to the anger, hatred, but made it the mainstream message of a party. now, he's th

bring in cnn political analyst alex byrnes, national political reporter for "new york times" and julian zelizer. what do you make of the tree? >> politics in washington even when it comes down to the tree. >> who knew it would be so difficult? i was talking to ari fleischer. let's talk about what i was talking about with ari, this very public struggle over whether or not mitt romney should be brought in to be secretary of state. i haven't seen anything this public during a transition before. >> well, it's partly because romney's opposition was so strong, it was beyond i disagree with policy, it's beyond i like another candidate. he said in the middle of the campaign i fundamentally don't think this person should be president of the united states. obviously it's going to create a kind of tension we haven't seen. we also have to remember, president-elect trump likes this kind of drama. we keep seeing this at different points of the campaign. i think the intrigue is part of what he wants in this transition. >> alex, you covered this team and these people in varying degrees for a long time. it stri

teaches atuest princeton university and is the author of "the fierce urgency of us," julian zelizer joining looking at this election and going back to 2000. we will take you back right now. our board conceding after the decision by the supreme court. al gore: moments ago, i spoke to george w. bush and congratulated him on becoming the 43rd president. i promised him i would not call him back this time. i offered to meet with him as soon as possible so we could start to heal the division of the campaigns and the contest we just passed. almost a century to half ago, stephen douglas told abraham lincoln, who just defeated him, partisan feeling must yield to patriotism. i am with you, mr. president. in it same spirit, i say to president-elect bush, what remains ranker must be put aside and may god bless his stewardship of this country. neither he nor i anticipated this long and difficult road. neither of us wanted it to happen. yet it came and now it has ended. resolved as it must be resolved through our democracy. over the library of one of our great law schools is inscribed "not under man but