juliana sanchez saying now is exactly the same thing that he told me on this show when i interviewedim back in january at the ecuadorian embassy in london. take a quick look. >> sean: did russia give you this information or anybody associated with russia? >> our source is not a state party. the answer for our interactions is no. >> sean: you did not get this information about the dnc, john podesta's emails. can you tell the american people a thousand% you did not get it from russia or anybody associated with russia? >> we can say, we have said repeatedly over the last few months that our source is not the russian government, it is not a state party. >> sean: keep in mind that wikileaks has never been wrong once in 11 years of publishing. so the special counsel tonight, robert mueller should be getting on a plane and going to meet with juliana sanchez to find out if, in fact, he has the evidence and is telling the world the truth. if he wants to get to the truth, he owes it to the american people, the president, and congress should immediately open an investigation. this is one guy th

you end up like juliana sanchez hiding out for six years in the embassy, and that is not exactly glory. >> dana: there are two different types of leaks, jeff sessions will talk about the national security related intelligence information that are criminal, but now ed henry was suggesting, we have a new chief of staff, john f. kelly coming into a white house that has had leaks about what is going on inside the white house that they do not like either. what kind of chief of staff do to stop that kind of thing? >> fire people who are cods, try to make it very clear that that will be the penalty so that you get the deterrent effect. there was a sense up until kelly's session a day ago that the white house was a free fire zone where if you had a personal enemy, you had certain ambitions forwarded by arrival in the white house, you could be leaking like crazy and tried to embarrass, hurt them, bring them down. scaramucci was pretty open about it. he was not exactly a secret leaker. he was more of a suicide bomber. who took a whole bunch of people down with him. so you have this culture of fr