the imaginary towns are we going underground or what's supposed to be week 2 of juliana songes london trial from the country with one of the highest coronavirus death rates on earth coming up in the show with nato nations panicking over a global economic catastrophe amidst a pandemic and climate crisis will the global economy ever recover of the millions of lost their jobs since the start of the 1st covidien used lockdown could coronavirus mean the end of capitalism and globalization as we know it and politicians really fit for purpose joining me now from new york city is the author of the ages of globalization geography technology and institutions and director of the sustainable development solution network professor jeffrey sachs of the center of a sustainable development at columbia university thank you so much jeffrey for coming on before i even get to the book in the past few days there's been a story that will commented on i'll give lee 13000 refugees on the island of lesbos in greece all there are makeshift homes were burnt down somehow an emblematic vision of globalization and

them well that's that's considered a crime so they desperately are trying to make this case that juliana songe helped chelsea manning there's no evidence of that they tortured chelsea manning to try to get her to say that that happened she still has and so that's kind of where they're at you know i think you know here i think at one point he was looking around to get a passport so he could shoot her video games i mean that's high risk national security very very own game all right yet taylor that that's just the whole point here is that. journalists it is journalists are fine as long as you echo what power wants you to say and that's what you see on cable t.v. 247 actually that's how you get on t.v. is by echoing the way the the talking points of the deep state and obviously your employer which wants to be in good stead with the deep state i mean you know it you know when james clapper says something i guess n.b.c. or something like that you know you you rest assured that he is in the know and he's telling his employer so he can have this circular game or he leaks it and then they report it an