julianna goldman on joe biden's trip. margaret her olson and run mesh -- margaret carlson and ramesh nnuru on gay marriage. we begin with former secretary of defense william cohen. there were some signs of easing. ?re you optimistic cap >> i would like to be but we need to look at what president putin has done and is declared intentions. he has been speaking as if the eastern part of ukraine is already part of russia. the newalked about russia. in his mind, there will be over time some federalization of ukraine which would mean the hollowing out of that government and reducing the ability of the government to really have a coherent state that they can control. i think that is his ultimate goal. he will continue to have his forces on the border and continue to agitate. the united states and the west really is at a disadvantage. >> not much we can do other than sending forces over. will search or real sanctions have any impact --will sanctions have an impact? covertly or quietly propose to the russians that we have a whole

julianna goldman on joe biden's trip to the ukraine.rgaret carlson and ramesh ponnuru on the gay marriage impact in 2014. ♪ >> welcome back. we will get to margaret carlson and ramesh ponnuru in a moment. first, julianna goldman is taking a trip with joe biden to ukraine. >> the vice president is traveling to the ukraine. the administration says this trip is designed to show u.s. solidarity and support for the people of ukraine. they are particularly emphasizing the $1 billion loan guarantee the treasury announced earlier this week. the vice president is going over there to say that this money is not just helping the people of kiev but also helping eastern and southern ukraine. >> will he be bringing other gifts like lethal assistance? >> they are ruling out any kind of lethal aid. they say the best way the u.s. can be of assistance is through economic aid. sending any time of military weaponry would send a signal that this is a proxy war between the u.s. and russia or send a signal that the u.s. thinks this situation can be resolved mi

julianna goldman, thank you so much.hen we come back, phil mattingly and margaret carlson debate jeb bush and rand paul's strong words. ♪ >> welcome back. major medicare data is out this week. we're joined by phil mattingly. the most exhaustive report on medicare and medicaid ever. what are the lessons? >> these details, about $77 billion in reimbursement, how they are actually paid out. doctors and providers, this is a way to crowd source medicare fraud prosecution. we are excited to see the breakdown here. prosecutors are excited. prosecutors have always had a good sense of what this data is. now you have more help from the justice department. consumer groups are looking at it too. there is a major disparity between the top level and the bottom level. >> every man and woman is innocent until proven guilty. $21 million of medicare fraud. i know a lot of people have eye problems, but this stands out. >> they do not need to find a good place to start. they started with him a long time ago. the fbi raided his office. he ha

we bring in julianna goldman. we will talk about that. with kathleen sebelius force-out?> my sense after talking with a number of people is that this was a long time coming. from the disastrous rollout in october, what white house officials have been saying is that they are not looking for ceremonial fire and. they want to take stock and move on. once the dust has settled, they will figure out where to go. the timing is interesting. it comes on the heels of the enrollment period ending. it met expectations. on the heels of kathleen sebelius testifying on the hill this week that 7.5 million people -- if they want to fire someone, they might consider the president. he was told that he ought to put someone in charge of this. the nordic. i am not defending stabile he is, but it was a responsibility was obama's. >> you will find people who say the default does not line with kathleen sebelius. this had been micromanaged from inside the white house. >> how about her replacement? >> sylvia burwell is the current budget director. she worked for jack lew. it is interesting that whe

lakshmanan on has laid developments from nato on russian troops along the border.n we begin with julianna goldman on health secretary nominee sylvia mathews burwell. good afternoon. >> good afternoon, mark. >> the disastrous obamacare rollout, that was months ago, that was back in october. why did the white house weight so i can make this change? >> -- wait so long to make this change? >> you had the president, out and say he was officially nominated sylvia mathews burwell, budget director, to replace kathleen sebelius as health and human services secretary. timing is everything. i've been rumblings that the president was going to be making this kind of change, but they were waiting for there to be a positive narrative around obamacare, and so last week you had the president doing his victory lap from the rose garden now announcing 7.1 people had enrolled in obamacare at the end of the enrollment period. kathleen sebelius and asked it was 7.5 million people when she testified on capitol hill. she is able to go out on a high note. they think they are turning the page here and moving on. >> juliann

we will be back with julianna goldman. this is "bloomberg surveillance."mberg television, streaming on your tablet, your phone, and bloomberg.com. ♪ >> this is "bloomberg surveillance." with adamet fu johnson in new york. tom keene is in washington attending the imf spring meetings. we will join him shortly. let's eu company news from the files of "bloomberg west." samsung galaxy s5 goes on sale around the world. some critics say it lacks the wow factor to stand out among competitors. the introduction comes a few sung saidr sam it was facing a second quarter of profit decline. 11a recalling its bio fit model. it is recommending that users stop using the device because the battery may catch fire. and the heartbleed security sco andix burke and -- ci juniper networks are vulnerable to this law. if you were in the rosses of sending software fixes or artistic customers. that is today's company news from the files of "bloomberg west." i'm not on social media like tumblr, i think you have to change passwords. >> there are too many passwords. that is the problem.

let's bring in julianna goldman. part of the team that broke this story yesterday.body is wondering about is the timing. why "get rid" of kathleen sebelius now, so long after all of the problems with obamacare happened? ik, the timing really has to do with the fact that you have a positive narrative when it comes to the affordable care act. last week, the entity enrollment peopleand 7.1 million had enrolled. yesterday, she was testifying at 7.5 million people had enrolled in obamacare. that is defining expectations from the disastrous rollout in october. this lets sebelius go out on a high note and it allows them to get confirmation hearings out of the way before the summer and fall, getting into the heat of the midterm campaign season. where health care and obamacare is going to be a major issue for republicans. this allows them to hold those hearings when obamacare has a positive spin on it and they can just get them out of the way and move on. >> did waiting this long come at a cost to the president? people want the president to be a man of action. when he did no

with more on the talks in geneva and the next steps in the ukrainian crisis, i am joined by julianna goldman. she will travel to ukraine with vice president biden next week. , has the white house had any reaction to today's developments? >> i just heard from an administration official who thought that the geneva talks went marginally better than expected but we are really in a weight-and-c mode right now. but how long should we expected take? a matter of days is what they are saying. the administration is somewhat notmistic but they are going into the stocks with high expectations. it will be a matter of days before they know whether or not this is progress and whether they will move forward with another round of sanctions. , does it seem they are really on hold at least for now? >> we definitely got that message from secretary kerry. we got the message before the stocks that, if there were not talks, here there would be substantial sanctions. if the product on paper does not turn into result on the ground in ukraine, the united states would be prepared to step forward with more sanctions. a

julianna goldman is in kiev following the vice president of -- vice president biden's spe ech. >> theice president finished up a meeting with ukraine's acting president and speaker at his meeting with a group of legislators from a wide variety of parties and regions including three of the presidential candidates and the may 20 fifth elections. the goal is to show unity with ukraine after the highest levels of u.s. government. also speaking to how the u.s. can help the ukraine from a russian energy pressure, help , andup the first economy fair elections next month. they will also be discussing more ways that the u.s. might be able to revive and nonlethal assistance. we've expect the vice president to call for urgent implementation of the geneva accord last week that you were referring to. the administration said so far they have not seen progress on that front. the next step would be to impose the next round of sanctions. bey are saying it will determined within a matter of days, not weeks. the indication it will be later to work the end of this week. they want to wait a couple of days

julianna goldman on joe biden's trip. margaret carlson and ramesh ponnuru on gay marriage.e begin with former secretary of defense william cohen. thank you for being with us. there were some signs of easing.

julianna goldman on joe biden's trip.argaret her olson and run mesh -- margaret carlson and ramesh nnuru on gay marriage. we

. >> for a look at what we are watching, we are joined by matt campbell, jonathan ferro, and julianna goldmanveling with vice president biden, due to speak any moment. >> we are at the cabinet of ministers club. the vice president is meeting with prime minister yatsenyuk, the third of several meetings he has had today with the acting president and speaker as well as a group of about nine to 10 legislators from various parties ukraine'ss of government. we are expecting to hear more detail on what was described as an aid package. more of a technical assistance package in energy, economics, and governance. ulianna, thank you. let's go to matt campbell. bill ackman wants botox. >> he wants to own botox, a chunk of the company that makes botox, allergan. he has teamed up with a large canadian pharmaceutical company for a hostile takeover of this company come allergan. worth more than $40 billion. i suspect a lot of other people will be watching that today to see where this bid comes in. >> matt, how do we coined it? pharma-m&a tuesday. keepis it for "the pulse," it right here. tom keene is next. >

julianna goldman broke that story for us last night and joins us now.re have been many calls the last few months for her resignation. why now? >> they were waiting until there was a positive narrative to tell. her resignation comes on the heels of the enrollment in the whiteending, house during the victory lap from the rose garden saying this is the law of the land and here to stay. yesterday after she testified on the hill and said there are now 7.5 million enrolled in obamacare, it allowed her to do a victory lap and leave on a high note. i also think it shows this administration is feeling more confident about the affordable care act. they are looking to turn the page on the tumultuous period dating back to october. they are able to turn the narrative and go on the offense. i would look for them to do that beginning in the confirmation hearing for sylvia matthews burwell, which also gets into the timing. they wanted to get the confirmation hearings out of the way while there was a positive narrative because they will be an opportunity for republicans

julianna goldman complete house.e of the white >> i am tom keene with me. adam johnson.u rumored to be back tomorrow. the most serious issue, what you do after thousands cross the finish line. you take theu do, kids down to see the finish line. all that was shattered last her with an act of terror. richard falcon raft -- falkenrath here with us. last you for your help year at this time. it was difficult. how unusual was this event for experts in security? >> area in usual. a lot of terrorist attacks but in the -- in the united states, extremely unusual. this was a major event. it was being broadcast live. we had almost immediate video coverage. in some sense fortunate because there was a large emergency medical cousins which is why the casualty numbers were low work than they otherwise would have been. >> would you take your kids to the finish line this morning? >> absolutely. will be much tighter, as it was for the new york marathon. backpacks from the finish line. very difficult to secure a marathon. the big thing they learned is the individuals were on the radar scree