and then how did you get from there to juliard? >> i was interested in it before -- before i joined. >> jimmy: absolutely, yeah. >> and then, yeah i guess when i got out, i had all this kind of, i guess, maybe false confidence. like, civilian problems are small. you know, now 'cause i have lived in the military. >> jimmy: sure, yeah. >> which is an illusion. then i moved to new york, and i'm like, i'll go to juliard. if i don't get in, i'll live in [ laughter ] >> jimmy: your plans are fantastic. you really got it all planned out. >> they're very spur of the moment. >> jimmy: i guess so. >> then i happened to get into school. i was very lucky. so, i got in. and i moved here. >> jimmy: then you got into juliard. well, the first time i saw you was "girls." you probably had other things before that. but that was the big thing i saw you in. i go, this guy is fantastic. and then -- now you're in "star wars." >> yeah, i am. >> jimmy: and this is -- kylo ren is the name of the character, right? >> right. or ren kylo. >> jimmy: ren kylo. [