. >> and your mother is julie andrews, what part of the book do you write. >> part of the... >> what part of the book do you write. >> emma this is structure and i think -- tell me if i'm wrong i'm more the flights of fancy and i do the, certainly the image making, the openings, the closings and emma, the -- >> the picture. >> i do the big picture and emma says, now we must have a finish, this is the end of the first act and makes me focus on the shape of the book. but, the actual sort of images and things, are probably my strength and emma's is the structure as much as anything and we seem to complement each other, at least i think we do, wonderfully. >> i do, too. >> why did you start writing children's books. >> i started as a complete surprise. i started as -- it was in answer to a game that i was playing with my children, and i had to pay a forfeit, i was the first to lose the game and i said, oh, what will my forfeit be and my eldest daughter, jennifer, said, write a story, write us a story, because i used to love to scribble and write things. and i really honestly thought, tha