julie baggnski is here let's start with you what was she doing wrong here?he administration really believes that is not impacting jobs regarly, why does this have to testify this and it has nothing to do with reducing the cost of obamacare. if it doesn't affect jobs, why this oath amax 21st and foremost it will reduce job hours. and listen, you can repeat it all you want. >> read the reprt. >> they actually disputed thi and said that these are people that are going to retire. charles: why did the administration talk abut people working last and they said that this is a goodthing that there are fewer people woing? >> it is a good thing. people like mitt romney's advisers talk aboutit in this allows you to do this you can retire earier. so charles is not listening to anytng that you and i are talkin about. >> i'm going to agree with julie, so help me out here. [laughter] >> we heard from many businesses, large businesses, the olive garden, papa john's, the list goes on and on. >> i don't know what kind of insane thing that they have descended into. it doesn't