how this came about is the direct result of two dogged journalist, julie brown and emily show. julie, for years, was involved in exposing some of the abuses in the florida prison system. she zeroed in particular on one inson for female inmates lowell, florida. it came to her attention that many of the women in that prison were there because they had been trafficked over the years and the subject was of great interest to her. she began to research the topic of human trafficking in the name jeffrey epstein kept coming up. so she decided to dig a lilittle deeper. that is when she discovered this deal enginineered in 2007 and 28 by mr. acosta when he was the u.s. attorney. concurrent with that, mr. acosta have been named as thehe labor by newry and designate president trump. she observed at his confirmation hearing that he got kid glove treatment by virtually all of the lawmakers who were there to grill him with one or two exceptions. so she decided to take a very deep died into this topic, working with the visual journalist, and the result was a series of stories called "perversion

julie brown did amazing reporting. >> absolutely. acosta should answer questions. >> yes. >> i'm all for the state's attorney answering questions, but we don't have an answer on why he was meeting offsite, why did he lie to the girls? why did he give immunity to these other four women plus persons known and unknown? why didn't he get anything in return for this deal? why didn't he research up in new york? i could give you a list of 30 things that he should have to respond to right away. and this business about, well, i think justice was done is a complete -- a, not true and b, unacceptable response from him at this time. >> it strikes me that here is a guy. he is currently sitting in the cabinet, right? >> right. >> it also strikes me that maybe the cost of keeping his job is he should answer these questions. don't you think? >> you know, it's so disingenuous for him to tweet "on new evidence." you can read the indictment, and clearly it's on conduct. >> the same. >> that was under his jurisdiction that he clearly reviewed and he cle

barb mcquade, julie brown, "the miami herald" investigative reporter, and tom is with us again. tom's been covering the legal aspect of this. tom, i just want to bring us up to speed on palm beach county. >> so the palm beach county state attorney, the people that are now in that office and now leaving that office, had no connection to this case. as a matter of fact, i know from discussions with them this is a case that has deeply troubled them. the way the case was handled deeply troubled them. so i know in the initial part of the show we're being responsible and reaching out for comment, particularly in light of what the press secretary said in his press conference. that goes to a former state attorney, somebody we had tried to reach out to on multiple occasions in the past, the last six months or so, and that's somebody we will continue to seek answers to. really alex acosta did put this at his footsteps. on the other hand, investigators who investigated this in palm beach raised concerns about this. in the document we talked about before, his office's unusual, that's a quote

you know, first of all, i think it has everything -- it has a lot to do with the work that julie brown has done over the past year. it started, quite frankly, as she got interested in human trafficking after doing a story about the florida prison system, particularly women's -- the women's prison system. as she started to do some background checking on human trafficking, jeffrey epstein's name kept coming up. then alexander acosta was nominated to be in trump's cabinet, and, quite frankly, when julie saw the kid glove treatment that he got during that process, we decided that, you know, she needed to take a closer look at that case. >> you were a u.s. attorney. there are non-prosecution agreements that happen that come and go. this one has gotten a lot of criticism. fair? >> absolutely fair. fair that it's gotten a lot of criticism and fair that it should have gotten a lot of criticism. >> why? >> because when a non-prosecution agreement is entered, it's because alternative remedies are viewed to be sufficient. it's because, you know, in the case of a monetary crime, sufficient money h

. >> julie brown is going to join us in the next hour.us about the well connected of jeffrey epstein. as someone who knows president clinton well. wilber ross in florida, as well. he's somebody at the nexus of a lot of powerful men. >> alan dershowitz. prince andrew. we don't know completely the relationship that jeffrey epstein has with all these powerful people. >> there's no indication, as i said here at this point, because we haven't seen any of the charging documents. the recruiters to this point, that's something we're going to have to follow closely, from a political standpoint. i have in here, will take me a while to dig it up. fight records that the service detail on jeffrey epstein's plane. president clinton, that is. i think that's something we have to follow. it's possible this could be a one and done. it is something that we will have to watch closely, with tentacles. >> that court appearance, scheduled to take place tomorrow. >>> next on "up," a new report to show what families are preparing for the ice raids that president

julie brown, thank you very much for your time and congratulations on the wonderful reporting. while it was welcome news for anyone who cares about the welfare of children, it was eye-catching. prosecutors in the southern district of new york announced the case is being handled by the public corruption unit. sex trafficking cases are not run out of the public corruption unit, a fact which was seized upon by reporters at the press conference. >> why is it being handled by the public corruption if it's just sex trafficking? >> i'm not getting into the staffing decisions at the u.s. attorney's office. i have confidence that the public corruption unit can handle this investigation and prosecution as it has so many other matters. i will urge you not to read into the unit assignment anything one way or another. >> joining us now is mimi rocah who supervised cases as a prosecutor in the southern district of new york. thank you very much for being here. this case seemed interesting that it's being handled out of the public corruption unit. >> it is unusual. the public corruption unit h

and some of the girls saying -- in some of julie brown's reporting, we should point out. the alleged victims talking about how they didn't know it was going to maybe go that way. or they knew it wasn't right, but again, they were young and didn't get it. and it also points out in the indictment that they believe, prosecutors believe he did know their ages and what was going on, because some of these victims who were in here were asked specifically about their age and they said they didn't lie. >> let's talk about the powerful people in politics that were friends, including president bill clinton, which i think records show flew on his jet several times. president trump is quoted with glowing words about him back in 2002. >> nasin fact. in 2002 he talked about him to new york magazine, he said he's a terrific guy, he's a lot of fun to be with. it's even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side. no doubt about it, jeffrey enjoys his social light. obviously that's seen in a far different light today. but there is a connecti

if we're going back to julie brown's heroic reporting and prosecutors in new york cited julie brown's reporting. that's not us. other people in the media landscape holding her up. federal prosecutors have now held her up. why should acosta stand in that room and get any credit, even from trump, for covering for someone who, as you said, ran an industrial pedophilia ring. >> of course, he shouldn't. >> what does the white house have to say today? >> they've been pretty quiet on this because, of course, there's a complication there because donald trump has a long history of being friends with jeffrey epstein is on the record saying he's a terrific guy in the interview. bill clinton, these flights, i thought it was pretty curious bill clinton used the excuse of his staff being around as if that ever been a barrier. this story has a long way to go. and it's now the concentric circles around epstein that are going to be investigated. >> annie karni has something. go ahead. >> let me guess that would be a reason why this white house would want to distance itself from this story as quickly a

"miami herald" julie brown. thank you very much for your time. >> thank you. >> while the charges against jeffrey epstein were welcomed news to anyone who cares about the welfare of children, something about those charges was particularly eye-catching. when epstein was charged with two counts related to sex trafficking of minors. prosecutors in the southern district of new york announced the case is being handled by the office's public corruption unit. that unusual. those case are not normally run oust of the public corruption unit, a fact seized upon by today's reporters. >> why is it being handled by the public corruption unit if it's just sex trafficking charges at the moment? >> well, i'm not getting into the staffing decisions at the u.s. attorney's office. i will say that i have confidence that the public corruption unit is able -- can ably handle this investigation prosecution as it has so many matters. i will, again, urge you not to read into the unit assignment anything one way or another. >> joining us

miami herald investigative journalist julie k. brownore than 60 women and girls who said they were sexually abused by epstein writing, except the record shows that you the evidence in 2007, remember the 53-page indictment, the phone records, the trash pulls, the flight manifests, the witnesses who worked for epstein? so it was julie brown who really reopened this case as the attorneys in new york indicated in the press conference they said new journalism, new reporting helped us along here. that's from "the miami herald." but acosta is claiming there's new information. and there are also details of how he arrived at the nonprosecution with epstein. which means he meant privately with epstein's lawyers. they kept it secret from the victims. >> crude dokudos to julie brown miami herald for pursuing this. this was a scandal in plain sight. this is something that the administration could have done more when they were vetting mr. acosta for the cabinet role. and it's something that senators could have done more, especially republicans contro

julie brown, it's a privilege to have you, congratulations on the role your reporting played. thank you all for spending time with us. after the break, we have often asked on this show what foreign leaders say about donald trump behind closed doors. now we know, the private cables sent home to the uk from one of the top diplomats from one of america's oldest allies and if on cue, america's thin skinned president lashed out in the last hour. you don't want to miss this. >>> trump defiant on the face of brand new reporting that his administration is subjects migrant children to at the board e filth, disease and unsanitary conditions in the hands of u.s. government officials, a growing humanitarian crisis with no end in sight, and as the 2020 democratic field loses one candidate, the rest of the field out in full force this weekend. some candidates making their cases, others enjoying their surges and a couple seeking to reboot. all of those stories coming up. p [ referee whistle sounds ] [ cheering ] when you need the fuel to be your nephew's number one fan. holiday inn express.

. >> except for the fact that julie brown came out after the confirmation hearings, so a lot of it wasn'tublicly known then. thanks very much. let's talk about the politics. julie davis is with me. former state and federal prosecutor. on the legal case, you say epstein has three legal options and they're all bad. >> he's in a world of trouble. number one, he'll go to trial. odds are he's going to get convicted. they appear to have a very strong case against him. if he goes to trial and looses, he'll never get out of prison. >> with kwob brarts. >> yes. option two, he can plead guilty without cooperation but i don't think the southern district is going to give him anything near what he got in florida. and option number three is cooperate. now, usually cooperation leads to the lowest sentence for defendants. he would have to give everybody up. it's not pick and choose in the southern district. and i'm not sure the southern district wants to cooperate him. >> if he were to give people up, remember there were four unindicted co-conspirators in this who in the last deal was agreed that they wo

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was evidence to charge him with and to give him what you have described and we know the newspaper julie brown has described as the deal of a lifetime. >> back on jeffrey epstein. the way in which, james, he was arrested. i mean, they knew his flight plans, they grabbed him the second his plane touched the ground. what -- why would law enforcement need to do that? >> a couple of concerns. one is, this is a man not just of some means, but of infinite means. he's a billionaire. he owns an island in st. thomas. so the concern would be if he left, he would never come back. and he would certainly be able to live somewhere with all the riches and the wealth he's got stockpiled. the other concern is this. people say all of the time, why does the fbi or why do law enforcement send ten police officers and five other agents to go make an arrest on a white collar crime? or on a crime like this on a sexual predator who has shown no indication of violence? the problem is, sometimes these are the most dangerous folks because they have the most to lose. and in this instance, you've got a man who is a billion

in that series, reporter julie kay brown talked about the effort to get justice by multiple child abuseffrey epiteen after a lenient non-prosecutionly got from then u.s. attorney, alex acosta in florida. since those were published, a lot of things have happened. like this week, a new arrest of jeffrey epstein who faces up to 45 years in prison on sex trafficking charges. the u.s. attorney in new york announcing the charges took time to credit some incredible investigative reporting in helping track down epstein in bringing these new charges he was talking about the reporting of julie kay brown after the pressure became too much even for the trump administration on this issue, the u.s. attorney who had given epstein his non-prosecution deal in florida, today he resigned as trump's u.s. secretary of labor. that inexplicable deal that acosta gave him back in the day was not enough to keep trump from putting him in the cabinet in the first place the pressure now resulted in acosta losing his job. tonight we got a new explosive ligation fr allegation from new york epstein according to prosec

to him shortly joining us now is the "miami herald's" julie brown that's done the definitive reporting on the epstein deal and largely responsible for the spotlight on this episode. thank you for joining us. secretary acosta seemed to argue this plea deal was the best that he could do, is that true? >> well, that's his belief and there are certainly people in his office that agree with him, but i think a lot of law enforcement people have been on here all day, on cnn all day explaining that there were other options. first of all, if he felt like he didn't have enough evidence or that some of -- which all the evidence he had was remarkable in my opinion and other experts' opinions but even if he felt that this was a little shaky and he couldn't get a conviction, he should have followed what his fbi wanted, which they wanted -- they were already finding evidence that this went beyond palm beach. the fbi files show they were traveling to new york and new mexico to interview witnesses. now the reason why they were doing that is they were understanding that this kind of crime, this kind of

julie k. brown, thank you so much. thanks for being here with us. >> thanks, brian. >> you can read all of her reporting at miamiherald.com. let me bring in a couple of our panelists now. national correspondent for "washington post" philip bump and opinion columnist catherine rampell. i mentioned clinton and trump have both been friendly with epstein in the past. epstein used to be a member at mar-a-lago, according to reports. here's what now president trump, then businessman donald trump said way back in 2002 talking about epstein for a profile of epstein in "new york" magazine. i've known jeff for 15 years, terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be about. it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side. no doubt about it, jeffrey enjoys his social life. that's a quote from 2002. now president trump speaking about his then friend jeffrey epstein. will any of this matter in the political sphere or more importantly should it matter in the political sphere? >> that's th

la periodista investigativa julie brown publicÓ los primeros testimoniosde las vÍctimas, entre ellas o de bajos recursos fueron trasladadas a mansiones de los millonarios. >> el fracaso de la fiscalÍa en miami en 2007 de no lanzar un caso federal en contra del seÑor epstein ha permitido que Él siguiera con esas actividades ilÍcitas. >> sus conexiones polÍticas le habÍan garantizado una pena de 13 meses en la cÁrcel estatal de la que se le permitÍa salir los fines de semana, esta vez los cargos son federales, dice este abogado criminalista. >> el primer paso es un caso es la decisiÓn sobre la fianza, si Él va a conseguir fianza o no. >> se espera que otros de sus socios prominentes estÁn incluidos en esta demanda. la prÓxima cita en la corte para epstein estÁ programada para este lunes y de acuerdo con los expertos, si este caso llega a un juicio, Él podrÍa enfrentar hasta cadena perpetua. fabiola galindo, univisiÓn. presentadora: gracias por este informe. el estado de georgia estÁ acusado de discriminar a los puertorriqueÑos que intentan obtener licencia de conducir. una nueva demand

when he said that, he was talking about the reporting of julie kay brown. the pressure became too much even for the trump administration on this issue, the u.s. attorney who had given epstein his non-prosecution deal years ago in florida, today he resigned as trump's u.s. secretary of labor that inexplicable deal that acosta gave him back in the day was not enough to keep trump from putting him in the cabinet in the first place but the pressure because of epstein's case and scandal resulted in acosta losing his job. tonight we got a new explosive allegation from new york epstein according to prosecutors in new york that after "the miami herald" series was published late last year, epstein, according to prosecutors, wired hundreds of thousands of dollars o to his alleged coconspirators, and prosecutors sa could be attempts at witness tampering. the prosecutors have notified the court of their belief that those payments could constitute witness tampering to prevent the new york judge overseeing the case from freeing him on bail as he awaits trial. joining us

julie brown, great to have you back on the show, julie. >> thanks for having me. >> give us a sense ofow that the -- i guess the runway has been cleared to charge him again. and what more is expected? are you looking at given the fact that you have great knowledge of all the different tentacles surrounding this case. >> well, i think what we want to look at is what kind of evidence that they have, especially what kind of new evidence that they have. it's probably likely that they have some kind of new evidence out of new york. because the charges out of florida the justice department has ruled that they're not going to reprosecute him on those charges. so they probably have some new information. among the new evidence could be witnesses or people that worked with him who now want to talk to authorities. you know, a lot of time has gone by, some of the people might be thinking differently about their role in this operation that he was running. so we'll have to wait and see what kind of witnesses or possibly employees that worked for him might be providing to authorities. >> julie, one o

it was by julie brown. vicky ward, how old are your 20 on his right now?> sons. .6 years old amy: that a significant because you are pregnant at the time you are doing this piece. can you describe what happened to you when you wrote this piece? you spoke to jeffrey epstein. >> multiple times. out all of these important bankers and academics and financiers to talk to me. he called me all the time, but he would threatening. he would talk and then he was a, vicky, i don't like thihis thes. something is going to happen to your unborn children. it lightly of say but i would to the magazine's general counsel at the time. amy: you actually put security in the nicu? early, heey came asked me what hospital they were going to be born at, so i did put security on them. they were born two months prematurely. i think one of the reasons it thisme so long to revisit story is that it was obviously extremely traumatic, n not of te least that getting the two young women who talked to me to go on the record, verifying with sources around them their accounts of what happened

julie brown who has done a lot of reporting had this to say about what we heard from acosta. >> that press conference that he gave the other day didn't do him any good, much help. practically everything he said at the conference was either inaccurate or twisted in some way to benefit him, to make him look good, and in reality there's nothing here that makes him look good. i mean, he dropped the ball on this case and he had been preparing to do a fact check story for tomorrow's paper that would use documents to show everything he said was not true. >> tom, talk about legal holes in the case that acosta left. >> i mean, i think primarily, the primary point was there was no clock ticking for acosta to bring forward prosecution. if the state moved forward with say a traffic ticket, not trying to be flippant as an example, moved forward with some minor, innocuous charge in their investigation, what difference does it make? he's the federal prosecutor. it is two entirely drifferent systems. that was the primary thing that didn't make sense at all. why stop the investigation when he did. th

what was different is julie brown's "miami herald", her excellent work exposing the existence of thisthat was secret, kept from the victims. she was actually one of the things i saw her do after the press conference thursday is she immediately delivered sort of a point-by-point, well, here's what i know about my reporting. here's what acosta said. one of the examples is she thought his explanation of having a breakfast meeting with epstein's defense lawyer right after the plea deal was still unclear. it is unclear what they talked about. she knew the subject so well that she immediately was able to fact-check that in realtime and it became sort of evident that acosta was not going to be able to sur mount that coverage even though he tried. >> now acosta is out. i hope there can be more focus on the victims of this story. that is the focus. it should be the focus, what these women went through. katie rogers, thank you so much. >>> how should the news media be covering the i.c.e. raids reportedly starting across the country today? that's next. award winning design. award winning engine.

julie brown exposed that. yesterday, we found out that cy vance, the manhattan district attorney his office went after epstein was a level 3 sex offender and tried to downgrade it to a level 1 sex offender. the judge being so shocked, saying i have never seen anything like this before in my life. and trying to downgrade it at a time, guess what, the guy still had obviously a massive stash of child porn locked in says. >> yeah. this is infuriating. when you read the details and hear the details yesterday it turns your stomach. but as you point out, it's been infuriating, been stomach turning for more than a decade now. this first investigation started in florida in 2005. he got this lenient deal in 2008, a secret deal where he went to jail for essentially 13 months. a sentence that had him going to work by the way six days a week. not really jail by any true definition ofmsnbc's legal analyst danny cevallos. first on what we heard yesterday, what's new and different from what we knew in 2008 when that deal was

he was making a reference to julie k. brownthe miami "herald" whose reporting has given voice to the victims of epstein. brown's work has been expressly cited by many media outlets in the past week in their own epstein coverage. for example the "new york times" said this, while mr. epstein moved about freely, reportedly building a new compound in the virgin islands, ms. brown continued to dig accumulating enough documentation to fill a spare bedroom in her florida home. while doing my own read-in on the epstein saga at the miami "herald" website under heading perversion of justice, i noticed reminders spaced throughout the series listing all the work that had gone into it and urging readers to buy subscriptions to support investigative journalism like this. the solicitation was a reminder that there is great investiga investigative journalism all around us, but it is in jeopardy. it is the reason after all why the mueller record didn't generate more of a reaction upon its release. we had heard it all before. mainly from reporti

>> well, really in all ten assy of julie brown. and as a result of that reporting she was -- she became interested in the element of human trafficking which really touched so many of those women. then she astarted to do some research on that topic. jeffrey epstein kept popping up. and then at the same time alexander was named to president trump's cabinet, was nominated to the cabinet. so we initially did write a story about this case, which, you know, had been widely covered, quite frankly, by many people at the time. but julie made a really great pitch, which she came to me and said i want to do this story. and what can we bring that's new to the table. she said, mindy, nobody's ever really heard from the victims. and she was absolutely right. this was, you know, she started her reporting before the me too reporting actually was published. but what she was passionate about telling the story from the victims' perspective because they have been failed by so many people and so many institutions. >> there are rarely stories of failure

. >> laura: ken, julie brown is the reporter writing a lot about this and speaking about this on msnbcthis week and said this. let's watch. >> how much push back pressure was brought to bare on that u.s. attorney's office from people connected to epstein and his attorney he's that were high powered high priced attorneys when the case was before alexacosta. >> i think they were bowled over frankly by the attorneys, ken starr. these were big name towards. >> laura: i happen to know awful you. i have known you for some time, ken. that, that is just about the most high powered team i can think of. how did you get involved in the case initially? >> well, our firm was retained by jeffery epstein as part of the defense team. i was brought in specifically to argue the constitution federal points. the idea of anyone being bowled over is nonsense. nobody was bowled over. i was in the meetings. they listened respectfully. the push back was from the united states attorney office. at main justice when the matter was reviewed at our request i heard things such as you're making compelling arguments.

. >> julie brown in "the herald" reported a dozen new accusers, but others in the white house not so there was a leaked to politico saying that mick mulvaney, acting chief of staff wanted him out because he felt he was damaging the administration. there was a woman and had to say on the today show. >> i was really scared. i didn't necessarily think that he was, you know, going to rape me. yeah, i mean, i was terrified and i was telling him to stop, please stop, you know. >> she said she was raped by epstein. this reminds me of the harvey weinstein case where more women are embolden to speak about and sometimes harsh attention of the media spotlight. >> it is part of the evolution of the me too movement and how it's made it easier for women to come forward when things are in the past, but in the article 2, not just interview, the article of interview where she talks about epstein, describing trips to the white house, i'm really sad that there's no way to search white house logs to see how many times he visited various presidents, that's another string to the story that deserves to be

again, kudos to julie brown and the miami herald for their persistence, sticking with this story.l just a little bit agh by that video we just saw of, you know, the two guys having the time of their life at mar-a-lago in '92, and you know, just yesterday there was an item in new york magazine referencing a 2000 profile by maximum golf magazine and it talks about epstein and trump, how epstein hitched a ride with jizlaine maxwell, the fixer, the pitch, the copredator on his private plane. we know there's at least an eight year stretch where they were tight enough where donald trump was welcoming epstein on to his plane, and that seems pretty significant that it wasn't just a casual friendship, i mean, if i had a plane, i wouldn't let anyone on it. steve probably doesn't. >> jeffrey epstein, look, i think it's clear that they were obviously friends and close and all that, and they had this falling out in 2002 and there are various rumors about why they had it. there's a before and after part to the relationship between the two of them, which we will eventually get clarified. >> this

look at this from julie brown. she's a ""miami herald"" investigative reporter. she said this. >> and then we'll listen to this sound bite from lindsey graham. >> if this plea deal doesn't withstand scrutiny, it would be a job of the judiciary committee to find out how it got off the rails, what kinds of checks and balances do we have to make sure complaints involving minor children are investigated. >> dana: that is the issue, the plea agreement and was it held inappropriately so from the victim so they didn't know what was happening. >> i think we're at the beginning of this. not even the middle. we're at the beginning of this entire thing. you have the clinton statement about bill clinton going on four trips. now there's reports of the flight manifest being 26 flights. you'll see all kinds of different elements come out tied to this case. the people down in miami, the people in florida, know how those families were feeling when this plea deal was struck. so i think capitol hill will get more involved. we'll see if secretary acosta can hold on. it's only -- pre

his guests include the investigative reporter at "the miami herald," julie brown.hey'll be talking more about that epstein case. >>> leaked memos from the british ambassador to the u.s. describe president trump as inept, insecure and incompetent. sir kim derek, one of britain's top diplomats used secret cables and briefing notes to warn about president trump's career could, quote, end in disgrace. the leaked cables were first published by the daily mail. >> look at their headline this morning. the washington files, ambassador's secret cables claim trump radiates insecurity. >> cnn correspondent anna stewart is in london covering this story. anna, what are you learning about this leak this morning? >> reporter: well, as you say, these leaks are absolutely explosive and highly embarrassing to the british government. some you have the ambassador outlining what he thinks about the u.s. president himself and the administration. let me bring you one of those, saying we really don't believe that this administration is going to become substantially more normal, less dysfun

. >> the "miami herald" reporter who exposed that meeting, julie brown, said this after this press conference today. >> here talked about the meeting and how the deal had been signed by the meeting, time of the meeting, that october meeting. there was a piece of paper signed and they were still really in the thick of negotiations and it was certainly still talking about there was a follow-up letter from one of epstein's lawyers that went to mr. acosta that said thank you very much for your agreement to keep this all secret. it was clear that that part of the agreement was discussed at that meeting that he had called some kind of false facts or fake news kind of thing about that meeting. the reality was their negotiations were going all the way through until june when he finally pled. he appealed to the justice department. there were all kinds of talk still goinga o on after the initial signing of that agreement. >> we asked if he was confident that the president would continue to support him. >> i'm doing my job. if at some point the president decides i am not the best person to do this job,

i'm curious, with julie brown who led your investigation at the paper and other reporters on staff, is this the kind of attitude that your journalists encountered when they were digging into this? >> absolutely. i think we have to realize when it comes to acosta resigning. it was a matter of when, and not if, especially after the arrest of jeffrey epstein on saturday. and yes, you know, i think that the cavalier attitude toward specifically the victims, we're talking about this because of the a-list names who are involved? unfortunately, we know that women who allege sexual assault are ignored. we know that they are silenced. we know that often their rapists are proclaimed good boys by judges and given a light sentence. unfortunately, this is nothing new. >> i'm glad you said that and you're 100% right on that. to you, ellie. i had a whole conversation with a friend of mine at breakfast over the whole white house vetting process. you look at what's happened here, the plea deal that was arranged is so well known. where's the vetting. >> it's a systematic failure, and it's hampering this

julie brown says this new indictment likely has powerful people incredibly worried. >> probably quite a few important people, powerful people who are sweating it out right now. we will wait and see whether epstein is going to name names or what kind of information he is going to try to trade in order to maybe get out of this in some way or lower his culpability. >> i want to bring in joey jackson. other lawyers have noted that this case is now being charged by the public corruption unit, not the sex trafficking unit. what do you make of that ? >> i make of the fact that he got out of that -- mr. epstein -- the 2008 charges. unusual. you mentioned -- i will get back to your question. but you mentioned that he served the state prison sentence. he was on work release. you go from at that point a prosecution that could end you in life and you are on this work release program where you go to jail. >> that was after dozens of allegations. >> absolutely. that's troubling. to the issue of public corruption, i think -- the reason i mention that, it begs how he got that deal in the first instan

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all, kudos to your paper and obviously the extraordinary investigative work you have done led by julie brown>> thank you. >> beginning with the u.s. attorney would not disclose how this investigation began, but said that the team was, quote, assisted with some excellent investigative journalism. and julie, told cnn she was preparing to interview another epstein victim today and instead she had to go to the news conference. can you just talk to me about how this all began for your paper? >> correct. and thank you so much for having me. >> of course. >> it started as a result of another investigation that julie did around women's prisons and it got her interested in the problem of human trafficking. and as she started to look into that, jeffrey epstein's name kept coming up again and again. and when julie first came to me pitching the story, i really asked, what -- you know, this is really very well-covered at the time. what can we bring new to the table? and julie said, we've never heard from the victims. no one has ever talked to the victims. and it was true that their voices had not been he

attorney versus the way alex acosta, who resigned last week as labor secretary, the way he did it, julie brownde open said that when the palm beach police back ten years ago or whenever went to epstein's house, all of the computers were gone. which the interpretation was somebody had tipped him off. either in the palm beach state attorney's office, mr. critcher or the local police or whatever. the computers were gone and ultimately u.s. attorney acosta and the fbi never got his computers during that investigation. >> no, again, a lot of this is on acosta but let's not give the palm beach authorities a free pass. they screwed this up too. but the number one rule in investigating anything is always get the computers, jake. they've got the calendars and the drafts and documents and frankly the evidence of the crime themselves. it is the first rule and it is mind-boggling they wouldn't have tried to at least -- to issue a subpoena for the computer or try to find it. it just seems -- something doesn't smell right here, jake. >> elliott williams, thank you so much. >>> the autopsy report just releas

extensive investigative reporting that went through court records by the "miami herald" reporter julie brown showing on several occasions former president clinton was on epstein's private plane, even at his private island. and president trump also in his orbit on the plane at least once. keep in mind there were neighbors in palm beach, at one point epstein was a member at mar-a-lago. he is no longer. and in 2002, then regular citizen donald trump said this to "new york" magazine about jeffrey epstein, calling him a terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be with, he said. it's even said he likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side. obviously those words take on new meaning today in 2019. we should point out that neither former president clinton nor president trump have been accused of inappropriate activity with underage girls related to epstein. among the others in his orbit as well, prince andrew and attorneys alan dershowitz and ken starr who helped get him that deal back in 2008. >> erica hill, thank you so much. >>> we have former federal prosecutor and

and i have to give a shoutout to julie brown at the miami herald because it was really her three-part investigative series highlighting the appalling things that happened to jeffrey epstein's victims that got congress moving. that got, you know, 15 democrats, that critically got ben sasse, the republican from nebraska to say to the justice department, wait a minute. what on earth happened here because it looks like you guys broke the law back in 2007 when you cut a plea deal with jeffrey epstein giving him this cushy 13-month sentence in a county jail where he was free to walk around and go to work and the fbi investigation, the federal investigation was cut off and none of the victims were told that this plea deal was going on. the plea deal was struck importantly by the current labor secretary who was then the u.s. attorney in miami, alexander acosta. you know, so interesting questions for him. he always said, well, you know, it was -- he told sources of mine, well, i was told to leave jeffrey epstein alone. i was told jeffrey epstein was to -- had something to do with intelligence.

julie brown, the principal reporter on this project, became very intrigued when mr. acosta who prosecuted the original case or, rather, approved the nonprosecution agreement received kid glove treatment at his confirmation hearing. and so she decided to dig into this story and held it up to the light and it looked bad and it smelled even worse. and the result was our project perversion of justice which has had kind an impact and i believe it is why we're seeing this case in court today. >> and of course acosta is a cabinet secretary and not involved as far as we know, but a lot of questions have been raised about that earlier kid gloves treatment indeed of mr. epstein who is very well connected not just to bill clinton, but their friendship with donald trump, donald trump quoted in 2000 saying he is a lot of fun to be with, it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do and many of them are on the younger side. that would not be high praise one would think. >> no, and the younger side here means under 18. so a couple points to add. the pictures that th

"miami herald" investigative reporter julie brown has been following this story very closely and spokeo cnn. >> what i tried to do since the story ran and got all that attention was to keep hounding away at the story, you know? i didn't give up on it. you know, it's sometimes easy to walk away and just let things happen, but i just felt that i had to keep pursuing it and not let the powers that be, so to speak, the law enforcement people, the people in government forget that these women were out there. >> epstein is scheduled to appear in court in the coming hours. >>> the earthquake danger may not be over as aftershocks continue to rattle a small california community. that's next on newsroom. dear lexus, dear lexus, it is with a very gratesful heart that i write you about your amazing employees. eric volunteered to come to my rescue that evening. ...to a mom, these things really matter. from this day forward, i'm a lexus customer for life. thank you. sincerely... ivy, kim, david, greg. crafting every experience for our guests with the same level of care we craft our vehicles. that's w

and you mentioned that because just last week julie brown, of course, "miami herald" reporter who has a lot of the revelations reporting on this case said that more than 12 new jeffrey epstein accusers have come forward. he already has a number of accusers against him. clearly enough for this trial to proceed here in new york in addition to the one that took place in florida. could this lead to further charges, these new accusers coming forward? >> it absolutely can and i, frankly, expect an additional indictment. the southern district of new york continues to investigate as i am sure they are doing right now. they have more potential victims, which could mean more recent conduct and more charges for epstein. >> let me ask you this as well just from your own experience, you are a corruption and fraud prosecutor in the southern district of new york. i'm sure you saw and dealt with a lot of bad actors during that time period. what do you think big picture about the treatment that jeffrey epstein received in florida? does it give you concerns that someone with a lot of money, a lot of po