. >> i'm going to bring in julie davis, white house correspondent for the "new york times." this part of your beat. i thought what the senator was saying was that he had committed a crime by lying in the first interactions with federal investigators about the contacts with kislyak, the contacts that he either didn't disclose or wasn't forthcoming about. i sought senator whitehouse was offering a legal analysis of where it could be. >> it sounded like educated speculation based not only on the fact that we know flynn did misrepresent his communications with kislyak and also now that there have been additional questions about other contacts he may have had that he didn't disclose including the trip to saudi arabia, his lobbying on behalf of turkish interests. i think what the senator was trying to say was that, because the evidence has mounted so much against general flynn that it wouldn't be a surprise given that we are not hearing from him publicly and he's sort of gone silent publicly, if he were cooperating. it may be that the senator has more concrete evidence than that.

ken dilanian, julie davis, white house reporter and the vice president for third ways national security program. and a former staffer for the house intel committee. ken, i have to bring you back to the beginning of president trump's interview with "fox & friends" where he talks about heck yeah, i said that. i said that to make sure he stayed honest. but he was lying when he said that. so tell me how this revelation and his own description of what he did which was to lie, right, furthers or playing into the investigation. >> you know, it was hard to make sense of that trumpian word salad because i think his view is i wasn't lying because i might have been talking a about other sub surveillance -- >> can i stop you. is he re-upping this claim that there were -- that he was being wiretapped by the previous administration? did you hear that? i heard echoes. >> he's never backed off the idea. i think he's backed off the direct wiretapping. but still raising the specter of a fisa warrant or a surveillance and throwing it out there. i mean, look, legal experts today though are saying that it's

. >> but "new york times" reporter julie davis was mistaken in the last statement. she tweeted, kasowitz is mistaken. we never quoted the stories. also the white house responding forcefully after comey said in his testimony he feared the president, quote, might lie about their considerations. in an off-camera briefing sarah huckabee sanders told reporters, i can definitively say the president is not a liar. it's frankly insulting that question would be asked. while the president himself refrained from tweeting during comey's testimony, his son don jr. was not afraid to weigh in when comey was requested about whether the president asked him to drop an investigation into flynn, don jr. tweeted, hoping and telling are two very different things. he either asked if it was a joke that comey asked a friend t share a memo about his considerations. joining us, ken delanian in washington. we want to play another sound bite and then we'll talk. >> do you believe this rises to the obstruction of justice? >> i don't know. that's bob mueller's job to sort that out. >> that's the

"the new york times'" white house correspondent julie davis. thank withdrew, ayou, all. it's been a long day for everyone. what a dramatic opportunity to hear straight from jim comey about what this was like on the receiving end. he saved it for today and the moments -- julie, i know you talked about being struck by that very first interaction that comey felt compelled to memorialize in a detailed memo that he started typing in the fbi vehicle before it even pulled away from the curb outside of trump tower. talk about what jim comey made clear today he felt in the presence of donald trump. >> well, first of all, he made it clear that he didn't really trust president trump from the very beginning. that one of the reasons, there were a few, but one of the reasons he decided to put this, commit this all to writing, was that he thought there was a decent chance that president trump might lie later about the nature of the conversation, and he felt it had been a very awkward interaction and that in some way that he was being treated inappropriately and having his independence

we explore it all with dan balz of "the washington post" and julie hirschfeld davis of the "new york times," pete williams of nbc news, and kimberly atkins of "the boston herald." [captioning performed by the national captioning institute which is responsible for its caption content and accuracy. visit ncicap.org] announcer: once again live from washington, moderator robert costa. robert: good evening. a remarkable week in washington where scrutiny of president trump's conduct came to the fore. in policy debates, they took a back seat. today during a rose garden news conference, president trump responded to the stunning testimony of former f.b.i. director james comey. it was a memorable exchange. >> back to james comey's testimony, you suggested he didn't tell the truth in everything he said. he did say under oath that you told him to let the flynn -- you said you hoped the flynn investigation -- he could let it go. president trump: i didn't say that. >> so he lied about that. president trump: well, i didn't say that. i will tell you i didn't say that. >> and did he ask you to pledge

julie hirschfeld davis of the "new york times," cnn's raju and others. a big deal for the president. rolled out from the outset, surprised we haven't heard celebrating a marshall vie ingi. it the president has said, see you in court. talking about a muslim ban, even as president-elect, call it a ban. the big arguments come in october. as they implement this, isn't there a good chance if implemented in a reasonable organized way, it might be settled by their actions not the legal arguments in october? >> don't forget it was initially about a temporary action. a temporary ban on these visitors entering the united states, a temporary suspicion of the refugee program. it's very possible that by the time october rolls around the administration will argue, we've done, reviewed our vetting procedures. have everything we need to figure out how to screen these people and protect national security, figure who can enter and who can't, and this could sort of collapse under its own weight. although the president has shown very little appetite for reconsidering the or

with me in studio, julie herb feldt davis of the "new york times," karen of the "wall street journal." the "globoston globe" and we wi get to the russian investigation and in a few minutes to the senate republican health care bill. this is a pretty much a bipartisan moment for the country and for this president who says he's following through on a campaign programs. this is legislation wanted to be passed before the president came into office. he's the president. he gets to sign it. essentially the big reform designed to improve the disaster of veterans health care during the obama administration. the president says he'll make those better. this particular legislation allows the department, makes it easier to fire people for misconduct. one of the things they learned after the scandals was people had jobs in place, found to be incompetent but federal government rules prevented the administration, then the obama administration, now the trump administration, a favorite phrase of the president, i don't mean to make fun, "you're fired." this days, an accomplishment in what way? >> as you

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