sanjay gupta, david axelrod, julie hirschfeld davis and dr.bout the president being released in time for the debate. it's one thing to be released from the hospital but raring to go in prime time under these klieg lights? >> yeah, absolutely. you don't need the care necessarily that a hospital provides but it still takes time to recover from this. even with people with mild symptoms. it's definitely a step that is lost from anybody recovering from this severe illness. there's as a concern as you know from some of these long hauler symptoms. we don't know how long this is going to affect him but i think this is definitely considerations. >> julie in retrospect, we look at wednesday night in duluth we say he spoke only 45 minutes which by the way sounds funny for anyone else, 45 minutes is a long speech. for him, it's about half of what you're used to? >> right. in retrospect, there were some signs that he was not quite himself. my colleagues reported on the plane on the way home, he briefly fell asleep. that is also not typical for him. clearly