>> yes. >> and julie kibuishi?ver his tracks and to frame sam. >> to make it look like he was on the run and he did it. >> he was the one that did it. >> right, and that if he was disappeared completely, you'd never find him. and it would all go away. >> but none of this was going away. especially for those left behind in the wake of two murders. steve herr, sam's dad, remembers when police showed up at his door. >> they came in, and they said, sam's been found. he was murdered. and for whatever reason, i said -- i don't know what made me say this. at least he wasn't dismembered. okay? the next morning, i get a call from the costa mesa police. he says, steve, before you find out, we just want to let you know sam was dismembered. that's when i just lost it. >> the very next day, sam herr would have turned 27 years old. sam's friend, ruben. >> you know, the night that it was his birthday, his father's praying to find his head. sorry. so it's very upsetting, you know. >> when police told you they thought that julie ha