one person who spoke was the former secretary of ice under the bush administration, julie meyers-woodsin a written statement to the committee warned quote, the administration has issued guidance that provides that illegal immigrants who have committed crimes only relating to their entry and illegal stay in the united states may be excused from deportation, and obtain authorizations in certain cases the difficulty is individuals who may want to cause harm to the united states may not be previously convicted criminals and this administration deferred prosecution guidance could cover individuals like several of the 9/11 hijackers who merely lied to obtain state identification documents or other-- or their visa applications so essentially the hijackers would have been protected by this law of nondeportation according to miss woods. that was not the only alarming testimony. we heard from the national ice council president said more concerned about politics than finding real solutions for our borders and described how ice agents and their hands are tied. >> we currently have 11 to 20 million