phillip and i both were part of the romney transition team planning in 2012. we began our work in july. and by the even election we were prepared to go in and phillip was on the intelligence sigh is. i was on the defense side. we were prepared to go in. we had shraeuts of candidate for all the senate confirmed positions that could be presented to the cabinet designees. we had focused at least on defense transition, very much on how can we get people who can-can work together so you don't get the kinds of dysfunction you sometimes have when right now with secretary carter and the navy secretary maybus and other defense departments with subcabinet appointees. the second part of that personnel issue is to understand that the career elements in the department of defense, department of state, and central intelligent agency are not the enemy. they are the subject matter experts who can help you succeed but only if you establish a relationship of trust with them and also provide them leadership. they have to know. they have to have commander's intent as we used to say. they have to know which