and i'm julie rosenberg, the board's executive director. we will also be joined by representatives from the city departments that will be presenting before the board this evening. corey teague, the zoning administrator representing the planning department, matthew green, deputy director of inspection services for the department of building inspection and james zon, housing

the board's legal assistant, alex, and i'm julie rosenberg, the board's executive director. we will also be joined by representative from the city departments that will be presenting before the board. this evening. up front, we have tina tam, the deputy zoning administrator representing the planning department, and matthew green, deputy director of inspection services for the department of building inspection. we also expect representativesro

i'm julie rosenberg the board executive director and joined from the city departments prti

and i'm julie rosenberg, the board's executive director. also be joined by representatives from the city departments that will be presenting before the board this evening. corey teague, the zoning administrator representing the planning department, matthew

and i'm julie rosenberg, the board's executive director. we will also be joined by representatives from the city departments that will be presenting before the board this evening. corey teague, the zoning administrator representing the planning department, matthew green, deputy director of inspection services for the department of building inspection and james zon, housing coordinating coordinator, manager for department of building inspection. now, the board meeting guidelines are as follows. the board requests that you turn off or silence all phones and other electronic devices so they will not disturb the proceedings. no eating or drinking in the hearing room. the rules of presentation are as follows. appellant's permit holders and department respondents each are given seven minutes to present their case and three minutes for rebuttal. all people affiliated with these parties must include their comments within these 7 or 3 minute periods. members of the public who are not affiliated with the parties have up to three minutes each to addre

i'm julie rosenberg the board executive director and joined from the city departments presenting before the board.

i'm julie rosenberg

i'm julie rosenberg the board executive director and joined from the city departments presenting before the board. we have corey the zoning administrator representing the planning department and kevin birmingham with department of building inspection. the board request you turn off or silence phones and electroning devices. no eating or drinking in the hearing room. the rules of presentation are as follows:for rehearing and jurisdiction request the parties are given three minutes each with no rebuttal. members not affiliated with the parties have up to 3 minutes each to address the board and no rebuttal. time is limited to two minutes if large number of speakers. there will be a verbal warning 30 secondss before the time is up. grant rehearing or jurisdiction request. if you have questions about the board rules or hearing schedules e-mail board of appeals@sfgov a.org. sfgovtv is broadcasting and streaming live and have the ability to receive public comment. go to sfgovtv. a link to the live it stream is found on the home page at sfgov.org/boa. public comment could be provided in three w

let's discuss with nbc's julie tsirkin from capitol hill, justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian, chuck rosenberg, senior fbi official, as well as former democratic congressman max rose of new york and maura gillespie, former adviser to speaker john boehner. walk us through what we can expect here as this hearing gets under way in just moments. >> reporter: yeah, this hearing will go for a better part of the day, about four or five hours, we're told, at least. this is really special counsel robert hur's first time appearing in the public, first time explaining his reasoning behind that nearly 400 page report in which he alleged that president biden had some mental fitness issues, he questioned some of that, but he also said that the president repeatedly told him as described in his opening statement, in the transcript the committee had just obtained, that he did not willfully retain these documents, that he handed these documents over right when he found out about them, that his lawyers did the same as well. this is one of the points that the democrats on the committee are going to try to draw a

julie, mike, i want to thank you. anthony and lisa, you're going to stay with me. i want to bring in chuck rosenberg. so, chuck, i'm wondering if the purpose of a special counsel is to shield an investigation from political influence, realistically, has that time come and gone? how effective in the world we live in now can a special counsel be? >> he or she can do their job and report the facts but if the goal is to insulate the special counsel from accusations of politics or partisanship, i think you're right. that time has come and gone. here's what's disappointing to me. and i don't think you can go wrong underestimating the dignity of a house judiciary hearing. there are real issues about how we ought to conduct investigations like this. whether the independent counsel statute, which expired almost a quarter of a century ago, was a better model. or whether the special counsel regulations are a better model or whether there may be some third way and not one person so far today has even broached that topic. these are just a bunch of partisans left and right trying to win each question and hearing a