host: julie rovner, do you have a question for him?what's the single most important thing that you are looking for? if you could only pick one of these things in a final bill, what's your absolute most important thing? >> closing the doughnut hole. if you look at the polls, and i hate to say that people look at polls to make determinations about their policy, but get used to it, world, they do. and what you find is that it's a 65-plus ovulation that has the most skepticism about health reform and what it will mean for them. we believe that closing the doughnut hole will be an important ingredient in improving their health  security. host: david sloane of aarp, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you for having me. host: the concept of this doughnut hole, we heard this before, what's the likelihood that somehow this will be closed by the date he mentioned? guest: i think it's fairly likely. congress looks at polls and they know particularly in mid term elections, which is coming up, seniors vote in disproportionate numbers. th

host: julie rovner, do you have a question for him?: what's the single most important thing that you are looking for? if you could only pick one of these things in a final bill, what's your absolute most important thing? >> closing the doughnut hole. if you look at the polls, and i hate to say that people look at polls to make determinations about their policy, but get used to it, world, they do. and what you find is that it's a 65-plus ovulation that has the most skepticism about health reform and what it will mean for them. we believe that closing the doughnut hole will be an important ingredient in improving their health  security. host: david sloane of aarp, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you for having me. host: the concept of this doughnut hole, we heard this before, what's the likelihood that somehow this will be closed by the date he mentioned? guest: i think it's fairly likely. congress looks at polls and they know particularly in mid term elections, which is coming up, seniors vote in disproportionate numbers.

. >> host: julie rovner of npr we keep hearing when the issues like public option and abortion will beig issues to tackle. what are the other issues that will have to be meted out when these two bills meet together? >> guest: a lot of people think the biggest issue will be how these bills are financed. remember the president said he will not sign a bill that is not paid for. deed both of these are paid for. in fact the senate bill would reduce the deficit over 10 years but something in the neighborhood of $130 billion but paid for very differently. both of them of course have reductions in medicare spending to the tune of about half a trillion dollars as the republicans gone to town saying. but the other have of the money comes from very different places. the house bill would basically tax the wealthy. they have a surtax, called millionaire's surtax only millionaires for couples. half millionaires for individual people. the senate bill goes basically taxes health care providers, makers of medical devices, pharmaceutical makers, the insurance industry. then they also have separate from

. >> host: julie rovner, our guest talk about health care issues for another half-hour. you can reach is on of those at the numbers will be on your screen. you can also e-mail and reaches off of twitter your twitter is twitter.com at c-spanwj. this diverts from a purpose a second that someone twitter asks about your pin. the pain you're wearing. >> guest: the jumping horse. >> host: if there's any significance. westhavewest haven connecticut. go ahead. >> caller: good morning. >> host: good morning. >> caller: i have a comment on this health care bill. we keep hearing different things. how many of us know what's in there? because my opinion is, if everybody is in medicare, and it starts getting cut, means less payment for the doctor. and as it's cut each year or whatever it's got, slowly, like the last one, there would be less applications or the medical profession. that's what happened the last time. and now we have fewer doctors, where we have now what we call physicians aids. now reimbursements as they go down, will be less and less health care. that's my opinion. tha

it looks like that is julie rovner. >> rovner from npr we think our first guest was pete starr.the congressional budget office and the joint tax put out a paper on monday that suggested that premiums would not as the insurance industry suggested sky rocket under the senate bill but it also suggested for most people there wouldn't be very much of an impact on premiums now the president when he was running promised $2,500 a year decrease in premiums how is this going to sell, and do you agree or disagree with the cbo joint tax assessment of what premiums would do and this i guess would be in 2016 under this bill. >> there's a few things to know. first, as you know having read the document, for those that go into the exchange anderson supplies, for those are the majority of the folks who will go into the exchange, there are dramatic reductions in excess of 50%. i would also note that remember the analysis was done for 2016. therefore it does not reflect more in some sense should it because these things take time -- does not reflect all of the changes we've been discussing with rega

and then julie rovner on the debate and what is ahead on thrill. "washington journal" begins even morning at 7:00 eastern with the day's news and your calls. layer on c-span 2, an event from american university on campaign strategy. the former director of strategy for joining campaign will talk about absentee voting. coverage begins at 10:30 eastern. >> next, a look at the u.s. education system and ways to eliminate the so-called achievement gap among low income and minority children. we will hear education officials and civil rights leaders. this two-hour panel was hosted by house education economy member congressman bobbie scott. >> we will come back to order. we have had excellent presentations about the legal bases -- basis for challenging the achievement gap and our civil rights leaders talking about some of the challenges from a civil rights perspective. leaders talking about some of the challenges from a civil rights perspective. and now we're going to have education experts who will speak to us because we know how to eliminate the achieveme