host: we are here with mary agnes carey and julie rovner. on thes been waiting line for insured through medicaid. caller: i have a question for the ladies and the general public of america. why are people shocked that obamacare does not work? if you go back to the beginning, the speaker of the house at the time said if you want to know what is in it, you have to pass it. obama created it and said if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. that was a lie. there were six or other lies that were engulfed in that. you take a look at the things that obama has done. he made a deal with iran that through israel under the bus. he made it legal for a man to carry a man -- host: -- legal for a man to marry a man. host: we will focus on health care. guest: be does it work question -- the does it work question -- it works well in some places and not well and other places. anything this large would get tweaked as it goes. because after the bill passed, the republicans took over the house. they cannot do any of that. it is difficult to make midcou

julie rovner and mary agnes carey were our guests. two minutes before the house comes in. been in hoffman, north carolina, ependents.ind caller: i am calling about the insurance companies and it would be interesting to know exactly how much these politicians in -- taken andd donate from those companies. when you put that personal mandate on every sold in this insurancehan the companies can charge whatever they want. i have seen it with all of the first insurance when they introduced it in the state of maryland. .nsurance rates went up as long as they know you've got to have insurance they will charge you whatever they want to charge you and these congressmen on this house and in the senate on both sides of that oil -- of that i'll are in cahoots with insurance companies and pharmaceuticals. and until they are shown to be what they really are, nothing is going to change. that is one of the biggest change, the subsidies. the subsidies go to the people but the subsidies actually are going to the insurance companies. not only are they charging outrageous rates for insurance bu

joining me now to break all this down: julie rovner, she's chief washington correspondent for kaiser health news, and our own lisa desjardins. julie, let me start with you. drill down a little bit for us in that number of uninsured and also what did it say about the effect on premiums. >> well basically what they said is even though the senate bill is different in many ways from the house bill, they end up in roughly the same place in term of number of people who would be uninsured. basically both of the bills would double the percentage of people without insurance compared to the affordable care act. one of the sort of remarkable things that it found is that it would do it for different reasons in a different way. for example the senate bill would peg its help with people paying premiums to a less valuable plan, a plan that would pay fewer of people's medical expenses. what they found for a lot of low income people even if they get help paying the premium they wouldn't buy insurance because they wouldn't have any help using their insurance. the deductibles have other costs which woul

coming up in one hour, mary agnes carey and julie rovner talk about the postponed senate health care law replacement bill and the overall state of health care in the u.s.. >> we will continue the discussions within our contents on the differences that we have, that we will continue to try to litigate. consequently, we will not be on the bill this week. ♪ host: that was senate majority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday, announcing a vote on the senate health care overhaul bill would be postponed until sometime after the july 4 recess . mcconnell announced the delay after the announcement it had not garnered enough support from public and senators to begin debate on legislation. we want to hear your reaction ahead toing as we look what comes next on the debate of health care in this country. (202)icans can call in at 748-8001, democrats, (202) (202)00, independents, 748-8002. you can also find us on facebook. a very good wednesday morning to you. some of the newspaper headlines that americans are waking up to the front page of the star tribune out of minneapolis, minnesota, "gop delays

mary agnes carey and julie rovner are of kaiser health news . thank you for joining us.

joining us to discuss is sarah cliff, correspondent for vox and julie rovner. re. julie, let's start with the secrecy is a bad thing and raising question about what is going on and contradictory to what the republicans said they didn't want to repeat from with obamacare. fair premise? >> yes. they spent day after day during 2009 and part of 2010 complaining there was too much secrecy and the affordable care act passed. they had hundreds of hearings and months of mark-ups before it went to the floor. republicans are doing what they criticized the democrats for doing. trying to write this behind closed doors in the senate without any committee consideration and with the possibility that because of the procedure they are using, they can rush it to the floor within hours for people to look at it before a final vote. >> sarah, can you confirm this? one of the quotes that jumped out is our priority is to get something to get the votes on. we are not worried about selling the american people on it. is that the case in your reporting? >> right. it really seems like the

phil klein, julie rovner, thank you both. >> thank you. >>> up next, why republicans are being so secretive about what should be their biggest legislative achievement. steve schmidt on the unprecedented hidden process in the senate health care bill after this two-minute break. these days families want to be connected 24/7. that's why at comcast, we're always working to make our services more reliable. with technology that can update itself. and advanced fiber network infrastructure. new, more reliable equipment for your home. and a new culture built around customer service. it all adds up to our most reliable network ever. one that keeps you connected to what matters most. >>> republican process to pass their health care bill is almost impossible to properly characterize because it is so deeply bizarre. obamacare act was championed, dozens and dozens of hearings, aims, debates. "the new york times" noted, "the senate finance committee worked on the legislation for eight days, its longest markup in two decades. considered more than 130 amendments and held 79 roll call votes." "the full senat

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coming up in one hour, mary agnes carey and julie rovner talk about the postponed senate health care law replacement bill and the overall state of health care in the u.s.. >> we will continue the discussions within our contents on the differences that we have, that we will continue to try to litigate. consequently, we will not be on the bill this week. ♪ host: that was senate majority leader mitch mcconnell yesterday, announcing a vote on the senate health care overhaul bill would be postponed until sometime after the july 4 recess . mcconnell announced the delay after the announcement it had not garnered enough support from public and senators to begin debate on legislation. we want to hear your reaction this morning as we look

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mary agnes carey and julie rovner are of kaiser health news . thank you for joining us. focusing on the congressional budget office report that has a big focus this week, the big numbers this