paid for by pharma. >> julie rovner is that true? >> this has been the argument that the drug companies have been making since the 1980s. the first big bill i covered when i started covering health care in congress was passed in 1988 and repealed in 1989 for reasons mostly unrelated to the drug benefit but not completely. it was congress's first attempt to add a drug benefit to medicare and the drug industry argued at the time if you don't let us make unlimited profits we won't be able to discover the next generation of drugs. this has been the argument all along, if we limit how much prescription drug makers can take in, then we limit the -- our ability to have new drugs going forward, and it's been a constant tug of war. since then we saw it to some extent in 2003 when the republicans were trying to add a drug benefit. we're seeing it now. it's basically the exact same argument. >> let's go to oscar in california. oscar, welcome to the conversation. go ahead. >> good morning, good morning, good morning. good morning, greta, thank y