idea of super abundance is, it occurred to us when we were looking at this original bet between julie simon and paul. if you remember that back in the 19 80s, you had paul, who had written a population. it was this book that painted a dystopian future that england wouldn't exist, we were going to start of. there was an economist who picked up the book, read it, and initially thought in three you could model, it seems like it makes sense. maybe i should go back and look at the data, see what the data says about resources, how abundant resources are. as an economist, i look at the price of resources. if something is running out, it should be getting more expensive. what julian simon found was that the price of these things wasn't going up, they were going down. how could you have something that was becoming more scarce, it was becoming cheaper. he begins to research other things, he starts looking at these non renewable metals like copper. he extended it to lumber and all of these other resources. what he observed is that as population increases, these prices, these resources actually went do