macgregor-skinner and juliette kayyem. the emergency management who seemed confident but reaching a lot of people with who he came in contact with. he could have come in contact with thousands of people. >> he could have, but, again, he's conscious and talking to authorities and he's really giving a lot of information of where he has traveled to and where he's been and light of parallels between new york city and what we experienced in lagos in nigeria. it's a megacity of 21 million people and when patrick sawyer arrived, that patient, again, we expanded this huge net of contact tracing in the nigerian government visited over 26,000 homes and families and talked to so many people and, again, there wasle 894 people from the 20 cases to do that contact tracing. what new york is doing is correct, it's right, it's the principles we use every day to fight ebola and find and detect early to ensure no one else gets this terrible disease. >> to dr. garza. let's talk about the flights that dr. spencer took. how much do we know abou

so let's bring international security analyst, former assistant homeland security secretary juliette kayyem juliette, first off, this seems to indicate without much doubt that the fbi director didn't think those air strikes against khorasan did much good. >> or i have to say he thinks that they might have done good vis-a-vis what we knew about khorasan at the time but that this terrorist organization has the capacity to reform. and so that may be what he's suggesting is, look, you never end terrorism, you just try to either delay it or minimize its impact. and i have to say, you know, the fbi director -- well, you want government to do a lot of things simultaneously. you should be able to rub its belly and chew gum at the same time. the fbi director, you want him solely focused on the potential terrorist attack or next terrorist attack so his words make sense to me even though they may seem a little bit dire or too strong for most people. >> they do seem dire and they do seem strong. i think that if you sort of add a plus b you should get to c. so if he's saying the strikes didn't hit the t

joining me now 1 cnn national security analyst and former assistant secretary of homeland security juliette kayyem. good morning, juliette. >> good morning, carol. >> i want to touch briefly on what we just heard from louise. she and her family are still trapped inside of her apartment while hazmat crews work to get the proper credentials to go in and clean the apartment. how can this happen? >> well, part of it is just a certification issue to ensure that they -- the workers don't get exposed. what is shocking about it is it wasn't like we didn't know that ebola was killing people in africa and that given the nature of globalization there was going to be a patient zero in the u.s. i mean, that's what's so frustrating about this week is who didn't believe that someone would come here with ebola? i mean, just given the nature of globalization. and we seem to have been caught flat fooded. the texas hospital not getting all the symptoms, his travel not putting two and two together as well as the response. and so, you know -- >> so who's responsible for coordinating the response? is it any one entity?

juliette kayyem, dr.van tulleken, thank you so much for the information this morning. >>> breaking overnight in st. louis, another fatal police shooting has outraged a community that's already on edge. overnight, an angry crowd gathered near the scene where police say an off-duty officer exchanged fire with a teenager, before killing him. the incident comes two months after the michael brown shooting in nearby ferguson, missouri. in both cases, the officer is white, the dead teen, black. but in this case, the police say the teen fired first. rosa flores is here with more. rosa? >> chris, good morning. tensions are high in st. louis, and so are emotions. this time, police are describing a very different shooting scene. when compared to the michael brown case. police say this teen suspect was not only armed, he fired the first shot. overnight, protests erupt in st. louis. angry residents charging at police. kicking at police cars, shattering windows and shouting for police to leave their neighborhood. this,

and juliette kayyem, we just heard that the center in brooklyn was being set up to track down other peoples doctor may have had contact with. you have been involved in the operation centers. how does it actually work? what does it mean, and i may interrupt you if the speech starts. >> okay, that is fine, when the emergency center gets open, you will have a commander who is essentially taking in information and sharing it among jurisdictions as well as disciplines. the interesting thing about ebola as we switch gears now into this threat of course it is cutting across the public health community. but every community is in contact with the doctor. and so now this is a challenge of information and intelligence-sharing. so the emergency operation center acts as a hub for all of that information, and then also deploying resources. so let's say we heard you know this bowling alley that the doctor went to. now there will be deployed resources to the bowling alley to figure out where he was, how was he feeling, talk to people at the bowling alley. that is how the investigations unfold. the emergen

let's bring in cnn's national security analyst, juliette kayyem, and senior law enforcement analyst andmer fbi official, tom fuentes. tom and juliette, thank you so much for being here. let me play you something that congressman ed royce told our erin burnett about lone wolf attacks in the u.s. let's listen. >> we're taking every precaution, but the problem is, that a request went out 30 days ago, from isis, to carry out lone wolf attacks. against these targets. including france, the united states and our other alleys. and clearly canada has put up a squadron of fighter planes against isis, so they're part of the target list. >> juliette if a request went out 30 days ago from isis, why haven't we seen a lone wolf attack here yet? >> a lot of it is just finding the opportunity and someone who is going to be radicalized. the message from isis was sort of a message to the world. anyone who would listen, from people in syria, refugees in syria to canadian guy. you know, a 20-something year old who is looking for meaning in his life. this is the challenging aspect of where we are in countert

on the nypd and the threat of similar attacks, let's bring in cnn's national security analyst, juliette kayyemsistant secretary to the department of homeland security and paul cruickshank. >> i want to play a part of the disturbing surveillance camera. a camera on top of a building in new york, you can see this man coming with a hatchet from around the corner, this is at 2:00 p.m. in the afternoon, the police were just posing for some pictures with some passers by and this is what happens. juliette, ha do you see here? >> well i saw this for the first time on air last night. and i think the words "my god" came out of my mouth. because there's a brazenness to it and even an intimacy, if that's the right word. a lot of terrorist attacks are, are big. like 9/11 or there's something anonymous about them. this is you know, sort of -- you're, it could be anyone. you could be standing on that subway and that's been isis or those who might follow that kind of terrorism. that has been their ability to create more fear than, than their numbers, right? it's the long videos of a decapitation that we see c

kent shepkowitz, chief at memorial sloan koettering cancer center and juliette kayyem, former assistantretary at the department of homeland security. i don't think you can make a case against this guy that sticks. but how high is this on the list of stupid things to do, what this guy did on the airplane? >> i have two sons, ages 10 and seven and i think they know better. this is, and actually, chris, he will probably be prosecuted for some disruption of airline travel. false alarms. and but he's part of a bigger story. which is going on right now, which is probably the biggest threat to the u.s. public health system. and public safety system. isn't ebola right now, it's the worried well. it's the pranksters, it's the hoaxes, it's all of this other activity that is generated by you know, one or two or three cases in the united states. and so that is why we have to be pretty firm against all of that background noise. because eventually you know, our public health system might begin to have to deal with future cases. which are going to come to the united states. we just have to be ready fo