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next step, cnn, national security analyst juliette kayyem, juliette, good morning to you. i know you've been up late through the night. let's just bring everyone up to speed about what this investigation is gonna look like going forward. >> so this is a political assassination attempt, at least and may fall into domestic terrorism tight cases. we don't have a domestic terrorism domestic statute, but we certainly have a federal laws that would cover this attempt. so that's why the fbi has stepped in and his team thinking, lead they will look at sort of two lanes of possibilities. are two lanes of inquiry at this stage. one is, of course is the shooter who is now dead, is were there were there any others involved it for this potentially be conspiracy? the early reporting suggests no, but you still have to determine whether there's an ongoing threat. the second is of course, to motives. yesterday, i was on explaining a variety of motives. people want to assume things i think we ought to be very careful about that. this seems like he mixed motive assassination attempt that, th
next step, cnn, national security analyst juliette kayyem, juliette, good morning to you. i know you've been up late through the night. let's just bring everyone up to speed about what this investigation is gonna look like going forward. >> so this is a political assassination attempt, at least and may fall into domestic terrorism tight cases. we don't have a domestic terrorism domestic statute, but we certainly have a federal laws that would cover this attempt. so that's why the fbi has...
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to cnn, senior national security analyst and former assistant secretary of homeland security, juliette kayyem juliette great to see you as always. what were your biggest takeaways from what we've heard so far from acting director row i wanted to put his testimony and disorder to pools. >> the first is the safety and security wine, which is the most important than the political he was a breath of fresh air. he's exactly chloe, what the secret service needs at this stage, he took responsibility for what happened. was contrite and somewhat shameful about just what so was so glaringly obvious to those of us seeing it he talked about what specific gaps there were. so we learned about why the drones warrant for the counter drones weren't up. we learned about the communications challenges between texts and radio. but my big takeaway on the safety and security, which i think will help the secret service in the future, is what he talked about in terms of assumptions, he said, basically we just make assumptions about state and locals. he didn't throw them under the bus and he said, the secret service a
to cnn, senior national security analyst and former assistant secretary of homeland security, juliette kayyem juliette great to see you as always. what were your biggest takeaways from what we've heard so far from acting director row i wanted to put his testimony and disorder to pools. >> the first is the safety and security wine, which is the most important than the political he was a breath of fresh air. he's exactly chloe, what the secret service needs at this stage, he took...
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juliette kayyem. juliette and jonathan. before i talked to you both, i just want to replay what happened. and just for our viewers, who are just joining yes, but also because i want to talk over some of the details, particularly with you, jonathan, of what we see the secret service do in terms of covering the former president, not immediately evacuating him until and also just remind viewers that the audio that they're going to hear is largely secret service agents talking among, each other while they are covering the former president. and you hear some words from the former president about his shoes. and then saying, wait, and then doing the fist in the air. so let's let's play that that's a little bit all that chart, that charts a couple of months old. and if you want to really see something that said, take a look at what happened when you're ready, on, you ready? good to know well, let me get much for me let me get my shoes. your head. >> so we're getting a, number of things. >> first of all, the shots, it seems to me th
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juliette kayyem. very good to see you. thanks so much. >> the fast california park fire is destroying buildings, forcing thousands of people to relocate. other weather is impacting efforts to contain those claims. that's next night on the whole story, political violence has always threatened our democracy after the attempt on trump's life. where does america goes from here? the whole story with anderson cooper, political violence. america is bloody history tonight at 8:00 on cnn with so many choices on booking.com there are so many tina phase i could be hired body doubles, 30,000 followers, tina and a boutique hotel has 30,000 steps. jean, at a mountain cabin booking.com. booking dot yeah this is the story of the one the one who believes being prepared is not just a way of life it's how we helps everyone stay safe he sweat the small stuff before it becomes big stuff for the one being an unsung hero in a building full of everyday heroes is just how we live thanks in the industrial great products who need deliver fast call,
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may not be able to get to the opening ceremonies, i guess cnn, senior national security analyst juliette kayyem is with us now from paris. juliette, i mean, the good news if there is any is that we don't think anyone was hurt in any of this. the bad news is this is a mess with just hours to go before the opening ceremonies. >> it's a total mess it's a total mess. and it was the unexpected mass. so i've been involved in reviewing the security planning for this very unique opening ceremony, as everyone knows by now, it's the first summer olympics where the opening ceremony is not in a stadium, it's going to be on the son river all focus was here a tens of thousands of military and police officers says, the streets are completely closed. now, there's about 100 cops for every pedestrian they were fortifying that area. and then of course, in the middle of the night, the day before a sabotage, your we don't know who did it. ministers from france are suggesting domestic in the sense of maybe politically motivated. but it was done for pure disruption because it wasn't know. no one it wasn't done at a t
may not be able to get to the opening ceremonies, i guess cnn, senior national security analyst juliette kayyem is with us now from paris. juliette, i mean, the good news if there is any is that we don't think anyone was hurt in any of this. the bad news is this is a mess with just hours to go before the opening ceremonies. >> it's a total mess it's a total mess. and it was the unexpected mass. so i've been involved in reviewing the security planning for this very unique opening ceremony,...
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let's get to juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst, and former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security. she's actually in paris. juliette, what kind of impact is this having an end? do we know who might be behind this? >> so on the impact side is it's going to impact a couple of hundred thousand travelers. they think over the course of the time that the trains are for down, which will which is there are alternatives, lots of shuttles are being used. i've talked to a couple of team olympic committee's national olympic committees there are going to get that their folks on buses as, as is the u.s. olympic committee, as to who it is. >> there's there's high likelihood incidents for one, the russians have always been worrisome during this during this olympics. but this is not the kind of attack that you we expect the russians to do. they were generally use a cyber attack. this is more physical in nature. and so there's been a lot of discussion about political groups maybe from the left wing. and the reason why there's people are saying that is as you'll r
let's get to juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst, and former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security. she's actually in paris. juliette, what kind of impact is this having an end? do we know who might be behind this? >> so on the impact side is it's going to impact a couple of hundred thousand travelers. they think over the course of the time that the trains are for down, which will which is there are alternatives, lots of shuttles are being used....
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running mate paula reid, cnn, washington joining me now is cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. she was also assistant secretary at the department of homeland security and is a harvard professor. appreciate you joining us thank you for having me us secret service director kimberly cheatle refused to answer questions at a congressional hearing monday on the catastrophic security failures surrounding the attempted assassination of donald trump. >> more than ten days ago now. and her refusal resulted in by partisan demands for her to resign. nine. now, if she doesn't do that, she doesn't seem to want to should she be fired for full accountability so she should offer her resignation and let the white house accepted. >> this is this committee that i know very well. the homeland security committee the never agrees on anything. the idea that the republican and democratic ranking members have joined forces, forces to ask for her or demand her resignation is not only about what happened, that we could go saturday, but also about just this sort of drumbeat of inconsistent statements stat
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more about keeping the games as secure as possible with cnn, senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. good to see you again. juliette, there in paris. alright, so those coordinated attacks against france's high-speed train lines. i mean, that happened just over 24 hours ago. it's still causing huge travel disruptions what are the priorities or i should say, how do authorities focus what our dual priorities? getting things running again yet at the same time, looking for who? the responsible. >> yes. >> i've talked to a couple of french officials. i have to be honest, the priority is still the protection of the olympics. they will investigate this case. they believe steve, as our reporting shows that it's likely a domestic political groups, some group that is angry at the olympics, or france for whatever reason and, the politics that have been going on here over the last couple of weeks with that surprise election. so but while the investigation is important, all focuses that is here in paris got through the opening ceremonies, really, really successfully. i was down there, saw the sec
more about keeping the games as secure as possible with cnn, senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. good to see you again. juliette, there in paris. alright, so those coordinated attacks against france's high-speed train lines. i mean, that happened just over 24 hours ago. it's still causing huge travel disruptions what are the priorities or i should say, how do authorities focus what our dual priorities? getting things running again yet at the same time, looking for who? the...
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and not go to the station's cnn national security analyst, juliette kayyem joins us live now from paris, juliette, good morning to you. what do we know about this and what are you what are you watching for here? >> so everyone was focused on paris and the opening ceremonies that start in just a few hours. they are on the seine river just a very concentrated effort on the safety and security side. and then of course, outside of paris 33 successful attacks. there were there was one that was thwarted on the high-speed rail, which is going to impact 700, to 800,000 passengers at this stage, we don't know to what extent those are commuters, although paris, it was just it's walking around is pretty quiet. that think it's mostly just a olympics. people related to the olympics right now but people are staying outside the city. there are trying to get in and then you also have the concern of the athletes and to make sure that they can get to where they need. we're hearing now. i mean, two things things have happened. one is that the paris olympic committee just canceled their press conference ab
and not go to the station's cnn national security analyst, juliette kayyem joins us live now from paris, juliette, good morning to you. what do we know about this and what are you what are you watching for here? >> so everyone was focused on paris and the opening ceremonies that start in just a few hours. they are on the seine river just a very concentrated effort on the safety and security side. and then of course, outside of paris 33 successful attacks. there were there was one that was...
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and let's talk more about this with juliette kayyem, who used to be assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. she is now is cnn senior national security analyst, juliette. good to have you on let's talk first about this new information about this drone that now we have learned dude are. likely flew over the rally site just hours before the shooting. >> how did that happen without it erasing any alarms i'm going to put that on the list of things that seem incomprehensible and i can give you a good explanation. i mean, generally you would protect the airspace around facility in particular and open facility that was known beforehand. so it wasn't like it was chosen the morning of i mean, there were there were weeks when the site had been selected. so you would protect the airspace or at the very least you would monitor if you saw drones going up, even if they were recreated personal drones. the irony of course here is everyone including myself are thinking, how come there weren't secret service drones, au, looking over these buildings that were so close, we heard from the s
and let's talk more about this with juliette kayyem, who used to be assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. she is now is cnn senior national security analyst, juliette. good to have you on let's talk first about this new information about this drone that now we have learned dude are. likely flew over the rally site just hours before the shooting. >> how did that happen without it erasing any alarms i'm going to put that on the list of things that seem incomprehensible...
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juliette kayyem, danny freeman. thank you both so you may hear the music that just started behind me where former president donald trump takes the stage. here are the republican national convention and a couple of hours. it's going to be his first time since saturday's assassination attempt. we're going to talk to a local mayor next to combat veteran who is there? in the front row. when shots rang out, we're going to ask him what he wants to hear from the soon-to-be republican nominee for president we really don't want people to think of feeding food like ours. >> a spoiling their dogs good real food is civil it looks like food like it's what dogs are supposed to be eating. no living being should ever eat processed food for every single detail of their life. >> it's amazing to me how many people write in about their dogs changing for the better the farmer's dog is just our way to help people take care of them what makes a medicare supplement insurance plan like an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan from unitedh
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hour as we are learning more about the investigation of president biden knows, joining me now is juliette kayyem, who was a former assistant secretary at the department and of homeland security and is now a senior cnn senior national security analyst. juliette, you know, just i was looking at that photo that was we were just showing up president biden in the situation room. he's surrounded by his top national security advisers, the attorney the general, his national security adviser, jake sullivan himself, but also the secret service director, as well as she's a 30 year veteran of the secret service and was returned and recently appointed as the director. i mean, there are major questions right now that everyone from lawmakers on capitol hill to everyone just has for the secret service about how this could have happened yeah. >> i think those are absolutely fair questions. it would be absurd to call this a security success the former president and potentially future president united states was nearly assassinated. the gravity of this you don't want our democracy to come down to lock, right? that
hour as we are learning more about the investigation of president biden knows, joining me now is juliette kayyem, who was a former assistant secretary at the department and of homeland security and is now a senior cnn senior national security analyst. juliette, you know, just i was looking at that photo that was we were just showing up president biden in the situation room. he's surrounded by his top national security advisers, the attorney the general, his national security adviser, jake...
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. >> here to talk more about this with us is juliette kayyem, cnn's senior national security analyst sistant secretary with the department of homeland security juliette, i know you personally have said that you think kimberly cheatle should resign as well. now we hear jamie raskin saying it. he joins as i mentioned, many others on both sides of the aisle do you think that will happen and do you think today makes it all but? inevitable yes. >> i mean, what how i feel is less relevant than how jamie raskin feels who's on the co-chair. this is a committee, by the way, that never agrees across the aisle and his call for resignation doesn't it doesn't mean that she absolutely should resign. i think what it means, however, is that she should consider whether she can successfully lead the secret service through this heightened threat environment. of the 2024 election, a piece of this that we're not talking about is kamala harris is about to be the nominee for the democrats. and if, if history is any indication her gender or her race will also breed new intelligence threats and so there's a l
. >> here to talk more about this with us is juliette kayyem, cnn's senior national security analyst sistant secretary with the department of homeland security juliette, i know you personally have said that you think kimberly cheatle should resign as well. now we hear jamie raskin saying it. he joins as i mentioned, many others on both sides of the aisle do you think that will happen and do you think today makes it all but? inevitable yes. >> i mean, what how i feel is less relevant...
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to discuss cnn, senior justice correspondent evan perez and senior national security analyst, juliette kayyeman, let's start first with you and tell us, bring us up to date and what you're learning. >> well, the latest is that the homeland security department has asked ronald row, who is the deputy director of the service to be acting director, which has obviously a very big job that is going to remain under a lot of scrutiny because of all the problems that have been exposed by what happened on july 13 the attempted assassination of the former president. you have one person dead, two others injured in a rally during which time all of these details that have been coming out from the from the scene, but we know that the secret service director yesterday just performed terribly. i mean, no doubt about it because you have bipartisan calls for her to leave and very few things are unit unify these two parties right now in washington, but it was clear both sides viewed what she did yesterday. and so as a result, she said in her letter to the staff today to the men and women of the secret service. s
to discuss cnn, senior justice correspondent evan perez and senior national security analyst, juliette kayyeman, let's start first with you and tell us, bring us up to date and what you're learning. >> well, the latest is that the homeland security department has asked ronald row, who is the deputy director of the service to be acting director, which has obviously a very big job that is going to remain under a lot of scrutiny because of all the problems that have been exposed by what...
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national security analyst, former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem is with us now. so what do you think about that? there was some kind of cryptic, somewhat cryptic posting from the shooter yes. >> so he knew what's interesting about all the information we're getting out is now is that he knew that there was some performative violent action that he wanted to do. right. so there is because he's looking at the dnc dates. he's looking at the trump dates. he's he's he's sort of searching all around. he then focuses on a relatively close event for him geographically, which is trump's. so we know that for reasons that might be psychological historical for him cultural, he's isolated, he's looking for a moment to get his headline. what's interesting is he doesn't care what the headline is. i mean, in other words, his search history now is showing someone who's sort of they're scrambling for an ideology and that's what's so i think new for this kind of political assassination attempt is we generally have a motive relatively quickly. they either don't like th
national security analyst, former assistant secretary for the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem is with us now. so what do you think about that? there was some kind of cryptic, somewhat cryptic posting from the shooter yes. >> so he knew what's interesting about all the information we're getting out is now is that he knew that there was some performative violent action that he wanted to do. right. so there is because he's looking at the dnc dates. he's looking at the trump...
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questions this morning where to try to spend some time to get some answers with an expert panel, juliette kayyem is former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. andrew mccabe is a former fbi assistant director darrin porcher as a former nypd lieutenant, and kevin shimmy lucy has decade's worth of experience working with campaign scenes and helping coordinate with the secret service let me start with you first, andrew, you here in the studio with me. the fact that we have no motive at this point, what are your thoughts on that it's strange. >> it is a little odd, but there are a couple of things at play here, jim, one i think to some extent, we're used to understanding a motive right away from our many experiences with mass shooters many of whom relieve some sort of riding behind and they leave it somewhere that it can be found quickly. that's obviously not the case. let's hear this. this is going to take longer. they have made some progress with a cell phone and with his computer. i understand that none of those are really giving them a very clear indication. none of what h
questions this morning where to try to spend some time to get some answers with an expert panel, juliette kayyem is former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. andrew mccabe is a former fbi assistant director darrin porcher as a former nypd lieutenant, and kevin shimmy lucy has decade's worth of experience working with campaign scenes and helping coordinate with the secret service let me start with you first, andrew, you here in the studio with me. the fact that we have...
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juliette kayyem cnn senior national security analyst, is on the phone for us from paris.ll, on these real attacks inevitably being linked to the olympics. this is going to disrupt it enormously. and it does show, doesn't it that despite the security within paris disruption is very easy from outside the perimeter that's exactly right. >> and i'm here right now just arrived, was walking around, carriers in terms of just the never seen honestly, i've never seen a security footprint like this in a major city but then just right outside of course, the city you have a multipronged targeted attack with arson. i apologize for the background noise and utilizing arson, it's a bit unclear the motivation we've been monitoring a variety of people who have protests against the olympics generally always that there's been a threat from strikes against events there's been some stuff related to israeli hamas war. we just don't know what this is right now, but we do know that the disruption is significant and the interesting thing is the police in paris are now being deployed to outside are
juliette kayyem cnn senior national security analyst, is on the phone for us from paris.ll, on these real attacks inevitably being linked to the olympics. this is going to disrupt it enormously. and it does show, doesn't it that despite the security within paris disruption is very easy from outside the perimeter that's exactly right. >> and i'm here right now just arrived, was walking around, carriers in terms of just the never seen honestly, i've never seen a security footprint like this...
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a rail union leader told cnn that a railway worker or industrial espionage might be to blame juliette kayyem, cnn's senior national security analyst, is in paris for us. thank you so much for joining us i mean, there was concern that it might when outside actor, it does look increasingly like it's some sort of domestic protests, doesn't it? >> that's exactly right. first of all, a lot of the domestic groups have been threatening to i try to sabotage essentially the opening ceremonies or basically make a statement as regards lots of visitors that are walked that were watching last night and so this was successful in the sense that it got a lot of attention and it didn't harm anyone. i mean, the one silver lining around this is of course, it was whoever planned it could if they were nefarious actor could have caused a lot of harm and injury, if not death to people. this was clearly planned is something nothing to disrupt and undermine france. the government, or the olympics. and therefore, you would look to domestic sources whether it's it's left-wing or right-wing or industrial sabotage again
a rail union leader told cnn that a railway worker or industrial espionage might be to blame juliette kayyem, cnn's senior national security analyst, is in paris for us. thank you so much for joining us i mean, there was concern that it might when outside actor, it does look increasingly like it's some sort of domestic protests, doesn't it? >> that's exactly right. first of all, a lot of the domestic groups have been threatening to i try to sabotage essentially the opening ceremonies or...
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police chief, charles ramsey and the former official from the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem, as we await for the start of this secret service briefing in no walkie chief ramsey, what specifically do you want them to answer? because there's norm is amount of concern that there were some blunders that were made yesterday allowing this 20-year-old to walk up to this elevated rooftop position with a weapon, with a rifle and all of a sudden start firing shots at the former president of the united states well, certainly they're going to hopefully provide some information around yesterday's events. now there'll be some information they simply cannot release added security measures and things of that nature. i mean, bad guys watch television too. so, you know, there are going to be some things they can't do, but they need to at least he's reassure the public that there is an investigation going in to the matter that they take it obviously take it very, very seriously and are going to take whatever action is appropriate. but they need to admit that there was some breakdown in securit
police chief, charles ramsey and the former official from the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem, as we await for the start of this secret service briefing in no walkie chief ramsey, what specifically do you want them to answer? because there's norm is amount of concern that there were some blunders that were made yesterday allowing this 20-year-old to walk up to this elevated rooftop position with a weapon, with a rifle and all of a sudden start firing shots at the former...
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. >> juliette kayyem, you're a former top official of the department of homeland security. you have a new piece in the atlantic magazine saying that this assassination attempt reveals failures in our democracy. what do you mean and how do we, how do we address that? >> well, i mean, one is obviously we need to address it as a security matter and talk about things like security perimeters and why was why was the rooftop left vacant and should we expand the security perimeters? but that's only one piece of it. and we're starting to hear it from people, which is that this exposes a major fracture in our democracy? we will have people blame this side or that side, but to the extent that violence is viewed as a natural extension of our political differences that needs to stop. and that's, there's no security perimeter. you can put around that moral clarity that i think all leaders can have and all columnist and all analysts and everyone, is that whatever our disagreements and even honestly jake fears about whether trump is president or biden remains president that that violence
. >> juliette kayyem, you're a former top official of the department of homeland security. you have a new piece in the atlantic magazine saying that this assassination attempt reveals failures in our democracy. what do you mean and how do we, how do we address that? >> well, i mean, one is obviously we need to address it as a security matter and talk about things like security perimeters and why was why was the rooftop left vacant and should we expand the security perimeters? but...
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so juliette kayyem, chief charles ramsey, obviously, you know, we've been talking to you throughout these these couple of hours. julia, from your perspective, is former homeland security. did you like what you heard there? not really. don't tell you. i listen. i am completely sympathetic with the police chief. he has a city to protect but we're watching this. we're watching this because the former president was almost assassinated. it's not like we're going to just watch any press security press conference. so two things i want to say. one is governor first could do something right now. he clearly has emergency authorities. any governor does the police chief and the mayor's hands are tied about the open carry rules. the governor could do a four-day exception to the rule based on increased an exceptional evidence there is a heightened threat. an increase the rules or tightened the rules around open carry near the convention center. this seems relatively easy to do. it's not an exceptional power. so urging governor evers and you might have that might have been what they were hinting to do t
so juliette kayyem, chief charles ramsey, obviously, you know, we've been talking to you throughout these these couple of hours. julia, from your perspective, is former homeland security. did you like what you heard there? not really. don't tell you. i listen. i am completely sympathetic with the police chief. he has a city to protect but we're watching this. we're watching this because the former president was almost assassinated. it's not like we're going to just watch any press security...
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he says walmart secret service agent and juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst and former assistant secretary for homeland security. good morning to you both. thank you so much for joining me. jonathan. let's start with you because we know who the suspect is. so how are the investigators now going to try to piece together what his motive was will listen. dod investigative phase that we're in right now is actually going to be conducted by the fbi because it is a criminal matter. the secret service is going to have a parallel investigation really around mission assurance trying to figure out what vulnerability was potentially miss was there a potential lapse in security in their planning to ensure that moving forward that their protective methodology remains intact. but from an investigative standpoint, the fbi right now is looking at everything in this suspect's life. they are looking at all of their known connections. they're looking at all of their digital information to see is this individual aligned to a particular ideology? is, politically aligned somewhere that are po
he says walmart secret service agent and juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst and former assistant secretary for homeland security. good morning to you both. thank you so much for joining me. jonathan. let's start with you because we know who the suspect is. so how are the investigators now going to try to piece together what his motive was will listen. dod investigative phase that we're in right now is actually going to be conducted by the fbi because it is a criminal matter....
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minute national security expert juliette kayyem was assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. jason russell was a secret service agent and darrin porcher a former nypd lieutenant. jason, let me go to you first about that minute and 57 seconds? from when the rally goers were noticing the government and when the shots were fired. i mean, there were a lot of people who were trying to call this out jason, what do you make of that? the amount of time that passed between when just regular bystanders, we're seeing this shooter up on top of the roof. and when those shots were fired yeah. >> obviously communication lab right. >> so you had people who are observing this person showed some concern. and i think what you're going to see is the secret service does a good job of kind of centralizing communication. so they would have had all the different entities that were on-site and one room so, that, communication can flow really quickly. i've done dozens of these types of sites and my career is a secret service agent. i think what you had was what you have in a lot of emergenci
minute national security expert juliette kayyem was assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. jason russell was a secret service agent and darrin porcher a former nypd lieutenant. jason, let me go to you first about that minute and 57 seconds? from when the rally goers were noticing the government and when the shots were fired. i mean, there were a lot of people who were trying to call this out jason, what do you make of that? the amount of time that passed between when just...
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we're getting a lot more detail on what exactly happened julia kayyem is with us as well. juliette used to work at the department of homeland security. this is a nightmare scenario that we've been watching, but give us your analysis. >> really you see well. first of all, i mean, the nightmare scenario is because it's, this is not over. i mean, first you're going to have of course, the investigation. what in fact, we're the noises lots of rumors on the on x and elsewhere about maybe someone is down or someone there were other victim how. is the former president and also the candidate to be present for the republicans? and then let's just fast forward it. we are in an increased threat environment regardless of what happened today and the and what is about to happen isn't entire party and its political leadership it is meeting for their convention starting essentially tomorrow that increased threat environment means that the security is going to have to change afford the convention, it's posturing is going to have to change to ensure that whatever was the cause of this and the motivat
we're getting a lot more detail on what exactly happened julia kayyem is with us as well. juliette used to work at the department of homeland security. this is a nightmare scenario that we've been watching, but give us your analysis. >> really you see well. first of all, i mean, the nightmare scenario is because it's, this is not over. i mean, first you're going to have of course, the investigation. what in fact, we're the noises lots of rumors on the on x and elsewhere about maybe...