joining us now is cnn's senior national security analyst, juliette kayyem. liette, it's great to see you. sources are telling cnn that saudi arabia sent multiple warnings to german authorities about this suspect that were ignored. walk us through. i mean, why might that happen? why might they have been dismissed? well, clearly the dismissal was a mistake. and part of this is going to be what's the sort of pool of such alerts that are going from saudi arabia to to germany given given just the intelligence environment? >> now, there were there were 100 a year or were there only two? >> if there's only two. >> germany is going to have to explain why saudi arabia, which is not often very transparent in its intelligence sharing because clearly they were monitoring someone in germany. why is not all clear why ve wou ignored it. so this is what's interesting about this, is that saudi arabiathreat was strong enough that they were essentially willing to tere picking up stuff from someone in your country. and so germany is going to have to figure out why it was ignored

we have a panel of experts with us, ed davis and juliette kayyem have been standing by. and juliette, first, i want to go to you. just given what we've heard from the police chief there, pointing out that there are five deceased, five injured, but that he cannot get into the details of who those folks may be, in part because families have to be notified that they've lost their next of kin. i do wonder what the process is like to identify a suspect in this situation, one that we should note in which officers discovered this juvenile, already deceased when they arrived on the scene. >> yeah. and just to just to take just a brief moment, because i think sometimes we can forget this just how absolutely jarring it was to have the police chief be told the number had increased in real time. i think we say numbers like three four. and you just saw his face realize like, you know. yeah, two more had passed away in the period of our press conference. and i, having done this a million, unfortunately, too many times, that was just so jarring to me. and you saw just how important it w

joining us now, the author of that atlantic piece, cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. juliette, good morning. always wonderful to see you. can you explain a little bit more about what you're saying here and how some of these surveillance techniques maybe should be updated yeah. >> so, i mean, basically in those first couple of days, what you saw was a perpetrator. we now know it was mangione really seemed to sort of. evade a lot of the safety and security features that are put into place in new york city and elsewhere to protect cities, including video and and electronic surveillance. so basically, i call it the surveillance state because that's essentially what it is. you have cameras everywhere. and he evaded it through, you know, basically using cash or fake ids, but also in the perpetration of the assassination itself. he really was good at sort of keeping his profile from being identified. his big mistake ultimately, of course, was there were so many cameras that eventually they were able to capture additional pictures. in particular, one in in the taxi cab. but

cnn senior national security analyst, juliette kayyem. juliette you wrote an article in the atlantic magazine titled the unitedhealthcare gunman understands the surveillance state, in which you write, quote, if you can't beat surveillance overwhelm it, intentionally or not, the killer has underscored the flaw in. if you see something, say something and approach that floods the system with too much information why do you think too much information is a problem here so we spent the last sort of 2 or 3 days talking about what the police are doing, and i wanted to address the question, what did the killer do to make it possible that we're still talking about a massive manhunt? >> three days after a brazen murder in early morning sunlight in the most surveyed city in this country. and what what? it was clear to me then in examining both what the police have told us and in our reporting, is, is both before, during and after. the killer was keenly aware of of how he might be surveyed and adapted to it accordingly. it's not only how we got to new

now joining us is forensic psychologist kris mohandie and cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. juliette, i'm listening to gary expand on his background. how does that or how might it fit into the puzzle that investigators are trying to piece together right now? is that this the usual profile for a shooter in this kind of crime the profiles differ, but the idea that he had a great education and came from privilege, we've had killers like this before, in particular the unabomber kaczynski was ivy league educated, was quite smart, had a had a purpose for his killings. >> so the thing that that they're going to try to connect, at least in the investigation is, was what happened to lead to this moment? was it the physical pain that he was in? was it outside substances, drugs or whatever else? was it a radicalization process either through books or online? so they're going to be looking at that. that got him a focused on not just hating our health care system, but actually hunting down a ceo. >> chris. i mean, we've learned that the suspect fell out of contact with his friends and f

joining me now, cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem. juliette, we know more today about the suspect than we knew yesterday. and we'll probably learn more tomorrow. right. but based on what we know today, is there anything that the german officials should have or could have done to prevent what he did? >> is how often do the saudis notify the germans of of someone in particular that they're worried about? and if this was a consistent warning by the saudis, the germans are going to have to explain why they didn't take this intelligence seriously, why they didn't seem to to even approach him to wonder what was going on. the saudis don't share intelligence that easily, especially as is clear that they were surveying someone who was in germany. so they were growing concerned, growing concerns about his radicalization, whether it was going to be targeted in germany or elsewhere. they didn't know. but but the germans are going to have to look at this and see why. why did why did his immigration status, presumably asylum status, seem to protect

juliette kayyem. thank you so much. >> we are also following breaking news out of south korea this morning. south korean president yoon suk yeol is expected to survive an impeachment vote after ruling party lawmakers boycotts a legislation session. at least 200 lawmakers out of the 300 are needed for the vote to be carried out. now, during a nationally televised address yoon apologized and he admitted the seriousness of his actions after trying to impose martial law earlier this week. but he did stop short of resigning. joining me now from seoul, south korea, is cnn's ivan watson. ivan what's happening now with the impeachment vote right. >> well just behind those doors, amara that's where lawmakers are gathered and they're trying to hold this impeachment vote. now, we don't think it is likely that the impeachment will pass because the members of the president's party, most of them left. and you saw really angry scenes in the halls of the national assembly here as crowds of angry critics were yelling

i want to bring in charles ramsey and juliette kayyem to talk a little bit more.s, i want to start first with you because you anytime we have a chase. this one went on for 19 miles. you certainly don't want it to end with it slamming into a very public, crowded place like a mall. >> no, you're right, i mean, but you never know where a chase is going to end. i don't know the reason why the suspect was being chased to begin with, but a 19 mile chase is a pretty long chase. >> unfortunately, it ended at the mall, and there were some people injured. >> even though the reports initially said there was an active shooter, apparently that's not the case, but a shot was fired. >> at least one shot was fired by a trooper, so it's understandable that someone would hear a shot and just assume in today's climate that there was an active shooter in the mall. but fortunately it wasn't. but we don't know how many people were hurt. >> right. and that's it. it's about the climate that we're in right now. juliette, i talked to you just a few hours ago about what happened in germany

juliette kayyem joining me right now for more on this. juliette, how has this happened? twice in one month with the same airline. >> yes. well, let's start with delta. it clearly is a delta issue. right now it might apply to other airlines. so we have to examine whether delta has recently changed any procedures or its employees under, you know, tremendous stress. what happened with that plane on the 25th that the guy was able to get off? there's a lot of issues around delta specifically that have to be addressed. but to be clear, this was a lot of failures, not just delta's, because at airports there's two sort of separate security aspects. i mean, the first is what's called identity verification. that's when you and i give our, uh, our i.d. and the tsa agent determines whether we are in fact, you know, juliette kayyem. the second one, though, is called the boarding status station. that's the one where you're getting onto the plane. that's ensuring that you have the right tickets. in both cases, very rare, but but in both cases, and relatively recently, both systems seem

juliette kayyem. thank you. coming up, a tip from the public was the key to the apprehension of the suspect. we're going to take a look at other high profile investigations that came to a close. with the help of good samaritans. we'll be right back. >> can't fool myself. it was the most exciting time in the world. >> his life had extremely joyful moments and some really difficult moments. >> you only come across an artist like luther vandross once in a lifetime. >> luther. never too much new year's day on cnn kind of needs to be more squiggly perfect. >> so now, do you have a driver's license? >> oh, what did you get us with a click of a pen? >> you can get a new volkswagen at the sign, then drive event. lisa, 2024 towels for zero down, zero deposit, zero first month's payment and zero due at signing. limited inventory available. >> disability is not a dirty word. >> it takes a lot to be able to get to the pride part of disability, because we live in an ableist society. >> there are millions of people like me. t

let's bring in juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst. uliette, let's take a look at the photos that new york city police released immediately after the killing. you can see. let's bring that up if we can. you can see mangione very clearly in the pictures on the bottom there from the hostel. you can see his eyes in the pictures. i think that's from the starbucks. and then from the very distinctive eyes and eyebrows from the cab. um, yes. he's distinctive looking. you know, there are a lot of kids out there, um, saying he's good looking. um, apparently no one in his rather wide network of friends or his large family recognized this person that they knew very, very well who apparently, according to his friends, had fallen off the grid somewhat in recent months. i mean, in the end, it's a random mcdonald's employee who recognizes him and turns him in. what do you make of that? >> yeah, it's an interesting, if not slightly disturbing aspect to this story. i mean, because because what we don't know is whether he was going to commit another crim

. >> juliette kayyem is with us as well. juliette mangione was found with a ton of evidence on him, yet he evaded capture for nearly a week. does that surprise you it was surprising only because of all that they had some pictures. >> it was a cold blooded killing, and at least with some daylight. and as we've been talking about last week, he seemed particularly sensitive, if not sort of aware of how the police might react in this instance. and so he was sort of in some ways evading what we might call the surveillance state in terms of cameras, in terms of no credit cards, everything's in cash, multiple modes of transportation. he staked out new york. so there's a lot of talk about he is from an affluent family. he went to to some of the best schools in the country in high school and college he's a smart guy. he he has studied technology engineering, all the things that now make it more understandable how he was able to do that. his reference to ted, ted kaczynski, the unabomber. people remember also was a well-educated man wh

let's get an update from our senior national security analyst, juliette kayyem, and our legal analyst, joey jackson. juliette. the fbi received this tip four days before mangione arrest at a mcdonald's in pennsylvania. why do you think it took so long to arrest him? >> part of part of it is going to be they just simply could not find him. whatever the tip is and whatever they knew they needed someone to say exactly where he was by the time they lost him on the day of the assassination, he's in the park. he's he's he's probably in another state, which we now know. it would have been very hard, even if they had the name, to know where he was until you had the eyewitness account. the family, as i have long been saying, likely knew it was him, but they had lost contact with him for a long while, so it really did take someone seeing him eating in a mcdonald's in this case, to be able to make that tip worthwhile. >> joey mangione, as you know, is currently in jail near altoona, pennsylvania, where he's awaiting extradition to new york. he was initially opposed, according to his lawyers, to

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. >> and joining us now to discuss further, cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem and cnn media analyst sara fisher sara and juliette, i know you both just listened to that piece. sara, i want to start with you first. i maybe i'm naive but this was kind of surprising to see how vast this vitriol is. this hurt. i mean, clearly, there are a lot of people really angry at the health care industry, but it is being aimed at this this now dead ceo and and it is really something to see play out. >> it's fascinating because if you were following the campaign, jessica, this was not a huge issue. >> health care wasn't the big issue of the 2024 campaign. however, if you take a look at the social media influencers that donald trump adopted when rfk dropped out and moved to him, you can start to see a pattern that was forming. >> this frustration with the health care industry. it has been there. and what you're seeing now is that this was the catalyst for it to come out even further and even more publicly i think this is the start of a larger conversation around the health care system. now, w

national security analyst and former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security, juliette kayyem. good morning. she's also the author of the devil never sleeps. juliette. i mean, given that, you know how the department of homeland homeland security operates from the inside, do you think the government knows more? but they're just not letting the public in on it no, i actually i mean, if you start with secretary mayorkas on friday coming out pretty strong on wolf blitzer's show, saying that most of what is being reported are manned aircraft and that the unmanned aircraft, the drones sort of represent what we're seeing is just that drones happen to be in the sky. >> and so what we might be is, is, is in this vicious sort of, you know, confusing cycle of more people looking up, seeing more things in the sky. drones happen to be in the sky and then reporting them. so i think, i think you're getting this sort of combination of things. in addition, in terms of the quantity of drones, we may very well be in a situation in which there are people who are having fun now, putting more drone

and juliette kayyem, cnn senior national security analyst. joining us this morning. thank you both. daniel, i'll start with you. where does the investigation go from here? is it trying to figure out if anyone knew of a plan or assisted the shooter? or is it looking at, you know, what the motive behind this may be? since the shooter is dead well, i think an investigation like this, it's all hands on deck. >> they're going to be looking at every possible angle, every possible motive, the pathway to violence. >> they want to figure out where she went off the rails, where she deviated from what is considered the norm. >> if this manifesto truly is, you know, her words, then they weren't using that as the blueprint. they're going to talk to every single person that was close to her. >> clearly, they've already interviewed her family. >> they're going to look at everything in her electronic presence. they're going to try and understand where she was during this route. >> they want to look for red flags. >> they want to see if there were red flags that were missed, who missed them. they wa

joining me right now to talk more about these developments is juliette kayyem. she is a cnn senior national security analyst and a former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. juliette, great to see you. so, all right, let's let's talk about kash patel first. i mean, he's he's a fierce trump loyalist who has vowed to go after the so-called deep state. what concerns do you have with someone like patel in direct control over sensitive intelligence and the ability to investigate the president's enemies? >> well he has no other agenda but revenge. i mean, it's not like he has a theory of law enforcement, a theory of of reducing crime or or financial crimes. he exists for one reason, and he's close to trump for one reason, which is he will be the enforcer of what might be called sort of the the revenge tour of of of this second term. so it's not really a matter of, you know what do i think or what what should people think is, is he this he is appointed for this purpose, and how is he going to do that? so the way to think about it is there's two w

juliette kayyem, john miller, thank you very much. john is going to be back with us shortly with new developments in the case against suspected killer. the suspected killer right now to juliet's remark that there are, in fact, drones in the sky. gary tuchman joins us now in new jersey with that side of the story. >> john, with drones in the news, we are at the drone port at warren community college in warren county, new jersey, in the northwestern section of the state. there is a state of the art drone program here for students. you are looking at very large drones i am holding right now a small drone. this is the kind of drone that cnn and other news organizations use to get video from the sky. with us is doctor will austin. he's the president of this college. he's also an expert in aviation and unmanned aviation, also in drones. first of all, i know you're going to tell me you don't think what people are seeing and reporting is nefarious. we'll have more on that in a minute. but first, why are such large drones used? what are the ap

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joining us now is former fbi agent scott curtis, also cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem and cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john, obviously, a lot of new developments today. the idea, first of all, of this gun is interesting. the idea that it could be a veterinary or a gun that veterinary veterinarians use. >> yeah. what chief kenny is talking about is after this assassination, you know, the nypd went to its firearms experts and said, what is this gun with this enormous silencer? and they examined it closely. it's a blurry shot, but they also looked at the way he was manipulating the weapon. and they said, you know, that looks like the bent vp9. now, as you see it has this large extended silencer that that is screwed onto a threaded rather short barrel. but the way the gun works is you fire it with that trigger and then it does an automatically load the next round you have to pull back on the rear of that slide, and then let it go to eject one round and feed the next in. if we look at that videotape taken during the actual shooting, you see hi

let's get analysis now from former homeland security assistant secretary juliette kayyem and stephen gutowski an expert on firearms and founder of reload, which focuses on firearms policy and politics. juliette, we're inching closer to day three of this manhunt. what are investigators currently doing with all the clues they've gathered so far? it's it sounds like a lot of clues yes, it is a lot of clues. >> and they are assessing across a variety of areas. one is, of course the surveillance. lots of film coming in from both days before, hours before. and then of course, the incident. they are looking at physical evidence. this water bottle, the camera, the bullets, the casings with the the the sort of these words on them that make it seem like it's it's this, this murder is about a claim. but the third is also they're looking at the threats that either the company or or the victim received and how specific they were. these ceos for these, these companies and john miller was talking this a little bit about executive security, this world that a lot of people don't know about. they are g

joining us now for more cnn national security analyst juliette kayyem and peter bergen. ette, former assistant secretary for homeland security peter, the author of numerous books, including the rise and fall of osama bin laden. also with us, former fbi assistant director chris swecker. peter, i want to begin with you because you have profiled so many terror suspects through the years. we know limited details about the suspect here. 50 years old, a doctor from saudi arabia, but has lived in germany for some 18 years. tell us about how that does or doesn't fit a profile for this kind of attack well, some people might be surprised that a doctor would carry out this kind of attack, but it's worth remembering that the erstwhile leader of al qaeda, ayman al-zawahiri, was a surgeon. >> and in fact, you know, the kind of profile of a lot of these terrorists are, you know, middle class. it's not you know, when you look at the taliban, the foot soldiers in the taliban are, you know, they're kind of poor, poor. but in a country like germany, bear in mind that the nine over 11 plot w

i want to go to juliette kayyem, who is here with us as well. of course a national security analyst for us, someone who understands the role of law enforcement and how all of this works. juliette, first, i just want to get your reaction to this breaking news that president-elect trump intends to nominate kash patel to serve as the fbi director. >> well, i mean first of all, just we should we should note how everything has, has changed because of donald trump firing comey. that that we're now at a stage in which the fbi director who is not supposed to serve at the whims of whatever president comes in we sort of just trump sort of views that as a given, it is viewed as his appointment. so so whatever is happening in terms of who he chooses, the fact that this is even a seat that we're talking about shows how much trump is planning on putting his people in. and now this gets to to to catel there is no one less. i mean, there's a lot of people less qualified to run the fbi fbi, there is no one that the only reason why trump would have done this pick

senior national security analyst and former department of homeland security assistant secretary juliette kayyem. also with us, brandon valeriano, a professor at seton hall university in new jersey. and pramod abichandani, a professor and head of the advanced air mobility lab at the new jersey institute of technology. juliet, to you first. the pentagon says these drones are not from a foreign entity and do not appear to be the work of an adversary. then the governor of the state says there's there's no cause for alarm. how would they know that? how would they know there's no cause for alarm? how would they know that they're not from a foreign adversary if they don't know anything else? >> that's right. i, i wouldn't say that if i were the governor for mostly because they already are a public safety threat. >> look, our skies are highly regulated because of the concerns about national security and public safety. you have an faa, you have drone rules. you have all sorts of regulations and no fly zones that protect the airspace. you now have these things and i'll leave it to my esteemed other guest

juliette kayyem is with us now, former assistant secretary at the department of homeland security. tim clemente, former fbi counterterrorism agent. and mary ellen o'toole, former senior fbi profiler. so thanks very much to all of you. so, tim, you heard that press conference and the police chief saying that the shooter's parents are, as we speak, in an interview with police. they don't want to talk about what they've said so far because they are they don't want to interrupt the interview. and that that interview is still ongoing. what stands out to you from what you've heard here in these past few minutes from officials? >> well, what you just said about what the chief barnes said, the interview is vitally important right now. >> this is where you're going to learn whether the parents had any inkling and either did or did not do anything about that. >> but one of the things i took from that press conference, besides the chief saying that he had he was not prepared to answer about whether or not there was a note or anything left behind. kind of leads me to believe there was. >> but

our juliette kayyem explains that the man has been in germany since 2006 and worked as a doctor the killers ties to germany were deep. >> he had been there almost 20 years. you are not talking of the sort of, you know, is it a syrian refugee or is it a young person, you know, recently from another part of the country who got radicalized? it's that deepness of of ties to germany. a profession we don't know about family, uh, presumably an income that is, that is different about this. and so that's what they're going to be looking to. so it might be the ties to saudi arabia. it might be something related to gaza and israel, which has amplified a lot of protests in europe and elsewhere. or it could be something uniquely german. and that and we will determine whether it was politically motivated, given what's happening in germany or someone with just, you know, a particular reason for doing this. >> videos of the horrific attack are being uploaded to social media. we want to warn you, the video we're about to show you may be disturbing. now have a look. it shows the moment the vehicle plowed int

as cnn's senior national security analyst juliette kayyem explains, that could provide valuable clues to investigators. >> well, the the fact that they have the car is going to tell them a lot, not just the rental, but who rented it. when was it rented? how much thought went into this? that then, will give you a sense of of of how much planning and whether others were involved. the assailants, the killers ties to germany were deep. he had been there almost 20 years. you are not talking of the sort of, you know, is it a syrian refugee or is it a young person, you know, recently from another part of the country who got radicalized? it's that deepness of of ties to germany, a profession we don't know about. family, uh, presumably an income that is that is different about this. and so that's what they're going to be looking to. so it might be the ties to saudi arabia. it might be something related to gaza and israel, which has amplified a lot of protests in europe and elsewhere. or it could be something uniquely german. and that and we will determine whether it was politically motivated,

cnn's senior national security analyst juliette kayyem explains that could provide valuable clues toestigators well, the the fact that they have the car is going to tell them a lot, not just the rental, but who rented it. >> when was it rented, how much thought went into this? that then will give you a sense of of of how much planning and whether others were involved. the assailants, the killers ties to germany were deep. he had been there almost 20 years. you are not talking of the sort of, you know, is it a syrian refugee or is it a young person, you know, recently from another part of the country who got radicalized? it's that deepness of of ties to germany, a profession we don't know about. family. uh, presumably an income that is that is different about this. and so that's what they're going to be looking to. so it might be the ties to saudi arabia. it might be something related to gaza and israel, which has amplified a lot of protests in europe and elsewhere. or it could be something uniquely german. and that and we will determine whether it was politically motivated, given wha

former deputy fbi director andrew mccabe, former assistant dhs secretary juliette kayyem and josh campbell, cnn security correspondent and a former fbi counterterrorism agent. so, juliette, according to officials in germany, the suspected driver is a 50 year old doctor from saudi arabia. he's been in germany since 2006. he has a permanent residency permit. so what happens next in this investigation now that they appear to have identified the suspect, i assume they go to his house and check out his electronics and try to figure out a motive. >> that's exactly right. they're going to look at a couple of things. there's of course, him. he is alive. and is he speaking? what is he saying about his motivation? and that would give them greater clarity. you have the car and we're hearing that it's rented and sort of you know who who had owned it, who might have rented it if he didn't. and that will give them evidence. and then, of course, you have at home. uh, computers, social media emails. this is a that will be super careful. it's an interesting interesting in the sense that this is not fitting

but then also to your point, the slip ups that also existed and yet he really does seem to as juliette kayyem said earlier, last hour, to be he really understood how to weave through a city that is high on surveillance. what do you what are your thoughts on on this suspect and his planning yeah. >> i mean i think he's a young, very young, highly motivated individual he, you know, he obviously planned this well. he, you know, the way he handled his weapon speaks to good training or some, you know, some type of professional training. the way he handles the gun, the way he had the the sort of the weaver method of shooting, he rico act or when his gun jammed, he was able to clear it very quickly. that's you know, amateurs can't do that. and the way, as you said, the way he moved through the city, he didn't try to get in a car. he didn't try to. you know, take immediately take public transportation. he had it very well planned where he had the, you know, the bike stashed elsewhere. he got rid of the backpack. he came out on the other side of the park, the only thing he probably didn't account for

let's bring in former assistant secretary of homeland security juliette kayyem and former fbi deputyirector andrew mccabe. also with us, cnn's security correspondent, former fbi counterterrorism agent josh campbell. andy, to you first. the sheer number of those hurt between 60 to 80 people. obviously, as fred noted, very evocative of the 2016 berlin christmas attack, where nearly 50 people were hospitalized, 12 killed when an islamist terrorist drove a tractor trailer plowing through innocent civilians at a christmas market absolutely. >> jake, you know, this just reconfirms for us. how prominent these christmas markets are as an enduring target for extremists and for issues of violence. so in addition to the 2016, you had another attack in germany in 2018, in strasbourg, which same basic plan, driving a car into the crowd at the market killed five people. and then, of course, as you mentioned earlier this month, politico reports another attempted plot against the markets was was foiled when the authorities arrested an iraqi refugee. so this, you know, security at these markets at ch

and last hour, i spoke with cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem, who worked at the department of homeland security, and she says that this may simply be a case of drones becoming more popular and more people looking up and perhaps seeing the same reported sightings. >> there's there's a lot of drones in the sky at any given moment. some are commercial, some are government, and then some are just recreational. and so being able to figure out, okay, is that drone, um, you know, a private sector legitimate drone because it's capturing weather patterns or whatever else as compared to the guy down the street who's just having fun right now? that is hard to tell from this, from this technology. and so i think part of it is that the system may be overwhelmed at this stage. i do think the government's messaging, uh, could be clearer in terms of saying both. we've looked at a lot of these cases, most of them, if not all, are manned aircraft or known sort of known drone activity. but there is a greater quantity in the sky. and i think that's what the fbi agent that we that you just quot

let me bring in our panel here in the studio, we have cnn senior national security analyst juliette kayyem, former nypd detective tom henry also with us, cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. john let me start where shimon left off, which is that all the clues that we've gotten today, i think, seem to indicate basically the same thing. this was a man who, it seemed, went to some great lengths to conceal his comings and goings. this is new york. so the video was there, but he took a bus. he paid in cash he stayed at a very transient place. what do you make of it all? >> he was a man on a mission. he came here for that specific mission and he was determined to get to execute it, to get away with it and to not be detected. and how do we know that because we understand at the moment he's conducting this homicide that he's going to have his mask and his hood up and you know, all of that, even before that, when he's going to buy a bottle of water but as they've developed this video canvas, you know, spreading out the days leading up to this and much, much more time than