before a secret grand jury that many believe is currently conducting a criminal inquiry into julius anjan wiki leaks in a statement released after her arrest manning stated quote i will not participate in a secret process that i morally object to particularly one that has been historically used to entrap and persecute activists for protected political speech with manning now jailed for a second time by the united states government and many are wondering what the future holds for her and how many lives and constitutional rights will be destroyed in the u.s. government's quest to jail julian assad joining us today to discuss the latest imprisonment of chelsea manning is a journalist who's been following manning story since she first made headlines the managing editor of shadow proves kevin gust thank you so much for joining us evan. thank you for having me kevin i think number one i think the biggest thing everybody's kind of wondering about this is how long could joe see manning be held for by the u.s. government this time around what do we know how long this poor woman is going to be in jail.