and this week on "the communicators" an exit interview with the former chairman of the fcc, julius genachowski, and the top republican, robert mcdowell, both who retired from the commission just recently. also joining our conversation, lynn stanton, of "telecommunications reports." chairman genachowski, if i could start with you and, commissioner mcdowell, if you'd chime in as well, former fcc official blair levin said that the spectrum auctions were not going to happen, they were going to push until 2015. what are your thoughts about the spectrum auctions and the timetable? >> guest: well, are you referring to the incentive auctions which we're in a very interesting time. you know, four years ago we had no plan as a country on how to free up a significant amount of spectrum in the 600 megahertz band. in fact, we didn't really have a plan to hit the targets that we set out four years ago, 300 megahertz by 2015, 500 by 2020. and here we are today the community is debating what the band plan should look like for 600 megahertz. so we adopted an incentive auction -- developed an incentive auction

program, we begin this evening with the former chairman of the federal communications commission, julius genachowski. >> well, i think that the fcc and the government needs to think very carefully about where government action is required to promote innovation and investment and protect consumers, and where no action is the best course. so i was of the view and we took action in this area that having basic enforceable rules to preserve an open internet and internet freedom was something we needed to do. there are other areas where we should be very cautious about stepping in and that is the hard work. i tend to disagree with people on both extremes, one side says government should do search agree and the other side says government should do it all, i think both of those sides are wrong and we need to take kind of thoughtful approaches to stoving real problems and using government action appropriately, and one other point, to recognize that some of the key assets here are government assets, the spectrum government assets, government has to act, the roads and rights of way that broadband lines go thro

mcdowell and julius genachowski, former f.c.c. chairman, and lynn assistanton. thank you. -- lynn stanton. thank you. >> brought to as a public service by your television provider. >> tonight, first lady's influence and image focuses on frances cleveland followed by this year's commencement addresses. first, twitter ceo, and then nate silver. >> frances cleveland was a celebrity first later unlike any before her. 12 us understand -- to help us understand, we begin our story inside 1600 pennsylvania avenue.