well, daunasia joins us here in new york along with julius jones of black lives matter, worcester, who also questioned clinton about her criminal justice record. welcome to democracy now! in a moment, we will play a longer part of the in country both had. daunasia yancey, explain how did you meet up with hillary clinton? other black lives matter protesters, were people interrupted public events, you are actually brought to her privately? >> yes, we went to new hampshire with the intention of confronting hillary clinton in a , a form she was hosting on substance abuse. unfortunately, when we got there, we were told we could not come inside. someone recognized me -- amy: because it was crowded? that weis the reason were given, capacity. amy: a report from cnn? >> someone came out and invited us to an overflow room where we could watch the forum and one for staffers came in and said, we could offer you a couple of minutes with her. we said, absolutely. amy: did she know you were filming her? >> yes. juan: risa price of the conversation, but it lasted as long as it did? >> it was kind of s

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daneisha yancy and julius jones from worcester, massachusetts. julius, did you get the answers from hillary clinton you expected, you wanted? >> i got the answers i expected but i didn't get the answer that i wanted. it felt as if she chose to focus how much work she's done to advance the lives of children in pursuit of their dreams but didn't want to take personal responsibility for the danger they put their families in by putting their parents in prison and in jail and divesting from the black community and she wanted to focus on policy solutions and such without addressing how she personal felt and how her personal emotions affected the lives of black people across the united states. >> what did you think of her answers, daneisha? >> i agree. i was disappointed. we wanted to hear a personal reflection on her responsibility for advancing and advocating for these policies and that's not what we heard. dawn asia. her policy response, if it's not addressing the anti-blackness inherent in previous policies, that's what will continue. so we're lookin

denisha yancy is the lead organizer of black lives matter in boston and julius jones is the league organizerlives matter in worcester. thank you for being here. thanks for sharing the video with us. i think it's important in a democracy to see how candidates respond. how did you come away from it in terms of your impression of mrs. clinton? >> i feel as if the encounter was good. it moves a conversation about race in the united states to a newer and deeper level. in other parts of the video she goes on to talk about how she doesn't actually believe that you can change hearts in the united states and that the way to affect change is through systemic change and at the same time she was also ducking personal responsibility for the role that her and her family played in it, too. so it was i think a moment of reflection for her to say that she doesn't actually feel like you can move this issue forward other than through policy even though the policy mistakes that she and the clintons made got us in large degree in the situation where we are today with mass incarceration. >> part of what i'm wonde

julius jones of this group said -- told cnn, when people say all lives matter, it's a violent statement. is there a fear in media to criticize this group of appearing racially insensitive? >> yeah, absolutely. absolutely there is. look, here's what i think the untold story is with the undertold story. we have seen for years on the right, there's this schism, you know, of the tea party movement. this is happening on the left. this is a radical group that is really tearing the left apart. they've been very disciplined for the last eight years under obama. the left in general. and now i think you're seeing the phenomenon on the left as well. >> got to wrap it up. let me give kelly a last comment. >> i think the -- matt is not the target audience for hillary clinton in that video. and the media coverage we're seeing reflects that. i think that she actually won this encounter and i think it was a positive media win for her. because i'm hearing from other african-americans, if you look at african-american sites, people are saying she handled herself well, including in my own family. this was

it began when black lives matter activist julius jones talked about the clinton administration's role in promoting mass incarceration. >> you have been in no uncertain way partially responsible for this, more than most, but now that you understand the consequences what in your heart has changed that's going to change the direction of this country? and what in you, not your platform, not what you're supposed to say, how do you actually feel that's different than you did before? >> i think that there has to be a reckoning, i agree that. but i also think there has to be some positive vision and plan that you can move people toward. once you say, you know, this country has still not recovered from its original sin, which is true, once you say that then the next question by people who are on the sidelines, which is the vast majority of americans, the next question, well, so what do you want know do about it? what am i supposed to do about it? that's what i'm trying to put together in a way that i can explain it and i can sell it. so all i'm saying is your analysis is totally fair. it's his