my name is giannoulias -- julius terman. outside the police commission i am a partner and i practiced labor and employment law. commissioner slaughter: i was appointed to the police commission a couple of years ago by mayor newsome and confirmed by the board of supervisors and like a lot of you said, this is a tremendous opportunity for the use commission and police department and the police commission and members of the public to discuss issues that affect both groups. it is a great opportunity. in my day job, you will see i am an attorney as well. i work for law firm and i do all sorts of different kinds of litigation and thank you for coming. commissioner kingsley: i am carol kingsley, i was appointed a year and half ago by the mayor. it has been a pleasure serving the community and the police department. in this way. my day job is as a mediator. i practiced law for many years but now media business disputes, primarily. i am very excited about this joint meeting. i think that as so many of you so eloquently put it, this i