and i said to my wife eunice who is a professional actor, graduate of julliard. i showed her the stuff and suggested maybe i could help the students write a play. went back to the class ands propose this that we take these scenes and i would kind of serve as the editor. i would bring them in, everything had to be cleared with the class. but it was not premeditated. it was completely organic. i don't think i or anyone in that classroom was prepared for what happens. because in prison you have to build these emotionally protective walls. but when people began to write about trauma, their suffering, their loss, their grief, those walls melted. as you can see there's 28 students they called the 400 club which mean they all bench over 400 pounds. big guys, prison tattoos standing up there, their handshaking in some cases crying. and it just became thisan explosive experience were everything that poured out and people began to speak about experiences they had that they had never spoken about in prison. and they had been sometimes in decades like lawrence and prison hav

even my life, to have an opportunity like this to take all that i have done, you know, training al julliard cast a himself. a man that wasn't - >> oh. >> and gave voice to the unsung heartsong that the ordinary man feels but never utters. with that i take this moment to my grave. >> oh, there is something very special about broadway. you know also when folks see you, "the wire." >> yes. >> they think of -- and when you look back, it's been so many years now. when you look back on the -- your work and the role that you play, what do you see? >> "the wire" was -- "the wire" was a special thing. novel for television. unique. changed television. you always hope to do something that will have an impact for a long time. that's the role of art, you know? >> uh-huh. >> to have an impact on society and "the wire," 20 years now still having that impact just shows you the great piece of art that it was for television. >> yeah. >> and it's a real honor also to be a part of that. i know it's going to be one of the things that i'm going to be remembered for and i have no problem with that. you know, when