four and while my deva was at that point he was still healthy he decided to put his focus into hiv junia's which he described as a genocide at the time in south africa where thousands of people were dying not getting access to treatment and when i saw and when i witnessed the horror of that pandemic face to face and as mandela had described it which is affecting women and children they were the face of it it was as if like i had a huge insight into what was going on or why we couldn't walk away from it to that group why would that stop me from singing and writing and working in well it didn't stop me completely but. i suppose what it is is that i quite enjoy entertaining people but there's another aspect of me that feels that i need to use my platform for women's rights and ups really in a way what i've been doing are you still an artist for lust i'm a pearl additives were for an artist in my sensibility i suppose now the the activist bit has eclipsed a lot of the so our usual fame which is there for good i would say i try yeah i try to do that a couple of things about music and we'll talk