jurnlg rutherford, infect -- dr. george rutherford from infection diseases at ucsf. >> my pleasure. >> the governor said tomorrow he will reopen the revisioning rules. do you know what changes we can expect? >> i was thinking it was going to be about labor day. i have no direct knowledge of what's going on. but i thought there might be a little hesitancy about or some caution about labor day given our experiences with memorial day. >> oh, bless you. yes, indeed, memorial day, everybody went out and we saw those numbers rise. you are right with labor day. i think i am starting to see places taking action preventatively, monterey, carmel, they will close the beaches. do you think that's why? and santa cruz came off the watch list, i don't think we are all going to flock to santa cruz. >> i know santa barbara officially closed all tear beaches for a while. yeah, this is not the time to be going out and risking exposure. it's as simple as that. have you the tools to prevent this. use them. >> all right. so i got to ask yo