let's talk markets joining us for that is jurrien timmer also hank smith from haverford trust joins usentlemen, welcome to both of you. jurrien, we know this fed meeting is coming up, we're anticipating they'll raise rates. that's baked in. is there anything the fed says this week that changes the direction of the market? >> they could. we'll get a rate hike, it will be the eighth hike the economy seems to be stronger and more inflationary after eight hikes than before. i think it is an interesting milestone to suggest that the fed is not even close to being done raising rates but for this week, you know, obviously everyone will look at the press release, the interview, what the words are, which words they're putting n which words they're taking out that's a big game around the fomc they'll add the dots for 2021. >> when you say dots, that means showing us where they think, the members think you'll see rate hikes for 2021 >> yeah. back in 2012 they created the dot plot where it shows each fomc's member individual projection for where the fed funds target rate will be so many years out