the justice department has already appeal that ruling, and tonight the biden administration has filed an injunction to keep that ruling from taking effect while their appeal is being heard. with that, let's bring in our lead off panel, katie benner, pulitzer prize-winning justice department reporter for the new york times, total all of a nebo, white house bureau chief for the washington post, and former attorney joyce vance who fed spent 20 years as a federal prosecutor. someone argue you all know what you are talking about. joyce, walt nauta appears to still be allied with donald trump. do you think there is a point at which nauta may have to go it alone and a break from him? >> if this were a typical case, and you had a defendant whose lawyers were evaluating his prospects, you would look at the evidence, you would look at the severity of the charges, and you would feel confident that there would if not be a plea at least be serious claim negotiations. but that might be off the table. this could be another situation like the one with trump's longtime cfo allen weisselberg, who went

do you trust the fbi and justice department?aller: of course i trust the fbi and the justice department under biden. the only time i didn't trust them was when trump ran the show. this is just a dog and pony show by the republicans because they will not do anything to christopher wray. he was appointed by trump, wasn't he? host: he was nominated by president trump and 2017. caller: ok, they will appoint the next attorney general. host: president biden will. caller: of course he will. they want biden appointing the next attorney general? that's not going to happen. christopher wray is at least a republican in charge so they will just do what they do. they saw what happened with roe. they know what will happen with the new border so they won't do any action down there because that's a good political point for them. they just want to yell at christopher wray and say what a bad guy he is but they will not take him out. he's in there because they don't want biden to appoint hillary clinton to the fbi. that's what they are afraid of.

now i'm told now that the justice department is working with the department of homeland security and the first public acknowledgment by the doj they're looking into the situation. i've been talking to sources for months and they'll tell me there are internal discussions with doj offer a situation they were watching play out along the texas-mexico border and this is who now set up buoys in part of the river that as the potential of drowning risk for many migrants and now we are learning that there were some orders that troops were to push migrants abo -- back to mexico. and the white house has responded to this and calling it atrocious. take a listen. >> i saw these reports and one of the things that i've been very clear about this, that this governor has done over and over again is treated this situation that we're seeing at the border in an if inhumane way. it is atrocious, the actions that he decides to take. he takes this, instead of dealing with this issue in a way to get to a resolution and working together, he turns it into -- he turns it into a political stunt. >> now, i want

working the legislative affairs and congress can look into the questions of have the justice department politicized or looked into any plea deal, and they want to testify in a few months and ask those questions burk as a former prosecutor, often there can be disagreements as to what agents want to do and the prosecutors want to do, but again, it is the kind of thing they can hammer out in a c congressional hearing and if it is a fair one and not a political one. >> and then over on the donald trump side of things with the actions trying to overturn the election, and there is a grand jury meeting and possible third indictment, and what does the grand jury say to someone like you or someone like me, and how close to approaching this process? >> we have been close 11 days ago when donald trump received a letter that he could be charged with a crime. so the mere fact that they are meeting for the first time this week is significant that an indictment could come, and we have been on notice that an indictment could coming soon. >> and so we will keep an eye on this, and many people across the

justice, to end weaponization of these agencies. we're going to have a new fbi director on day one. we're going to have big changes at the departmenttical spectrum need to have confidence that what is going on is based on the rule of law, not based on what political tribe you're in. then the second thing i would say is, this country needs to have a debate about the country's future. if i'm the nominee, we'll be able to focus on president biden's failures and i'll be able to articulate a positive vision for the future. i don't think it serves us good to have a presidential election focussed on what happened four years ago in january. and so, i want to focus on looking forward. i don't want to look back. i do not want to see him. i hope he doesn't get charged. i don't think it will be good for the country. but at the same time, i've got to focus on looking forward and that's what we'll do. >> just to be clear, jake's question should donald trump be held accountable, hell of an answer to that. what does it tell you? >> with all due respect, that is the worst answer i have heard to that question. it's very simple. >> don't hold back. >

this case was handled independently as all of you know by the justice department under the leadership of a prosecutor appointed by the former president trump. so for anything further as you know, she says, we have been very consistent from here, and referring you to the department of justice and to hunter's representatives who is his legal team, obviously who can address any of your questions. p so that was her preface to taking questions. if we could have our team alert us when we can get to the white house. but griff, a quick comment on that as we do await possibly his legal team to speak outside the courthouse in a moment. >> well, and i think that questions, sandra, will continue to be asked of the administration namely because i just watched for more than an hour, judge noreika questioning the prosecution, sandra, specifically going over portions of it, wherein, she said if i understand the way i'm reading this, you are asking me, the court to decide whether or not charges would be brought if the deal was breached, and that's not my job as a judge, it's the prosecution's job. so

pence is vowing to, quote, clean house at the highest levels of the justice department, the very department trying to hold trump accountable for what pence himself called serious charges. trump's criminal indictments and enduring popularity among the republican base how forced the candidates to talk about the justice department on the campaign trail. more importantly, trump's attacks on the justice department are resonating among the base of voters. vowing to clean house at the doj, pence said many americans have, quote, lost confidence in the justice department. people like his former boss are relentlessly attacking integrity. this is the snake eating its own tale. more broadly, trump's attack on the doj again fueled republican skepticism of the people, the civil servants who work across the many agencies of federal government. that's a more palatable talking point that fits into a decades long conservative effort to shrink the size of the federal government and diminish the influence of the so-called administrative state. campaign trail promises to clean house are the new drain the swamp.

change anything, then i would expect that they're going to say, i'd like to be heard by the department of justicesmall avenue in terms of the special counsel rules, where they can decide if jack smith is acting, it's such an abuse of discretion that the department should say no. that is what they are allowed to do under special counsel rules. so under that limited purview, they would take that appeal, and that is what happened in the mar-a-lago documents case. the same thing would happen. but again, a very tight timeframe, but the meeting would be very similar. preece present any and all arguments. then a decision would be made very quickly. >> well timothy heaphy, what is a like for you tonight when you began your work on the january six committee, you don't know if the justice department was going to investigate any of this. any of it. as you developed it, you are ahead of the justice department, you are finding all that material that you revealed to us publicly when the committee was ready to reveal it. but you knew it long before it was publicly revealed. and here you are tonight, after all o

the justice department is saying that they are going to recommend probation.ans no jail time for hunter biden, at least that's the recommendation from the justice department as part of this agreement under which hunter biden will plead guilty to two misdemeanors for failing to pay his taxes on time in 2017 and 2018, but that's the legal part of this. the political part of this is looming very large inside the courtroom. you can see right now the justice department is going through the sources of some of the income that have become such a part of the political part of this story, that hunter biden made money from his work overseas in ukraine and from chinese companies. >> he had the money according to the justice department to pay his taxes and just did not. now the judge is going through all of the facts as prosecutors will lay them out. one of the things that she asked and this is a judge, mary ellen a raka, she whether she could ask them to go back and re-do this investigation if there are parts of it that she finds lacking. both the justice department and h

thank you for your work that you did at the department justice. i'm a south carolinian and. the situation that occurred at mother where the nine souls were killed. i want to thank you for and in the department justice for your work there and dealing with murderer who killed those people, my, my, my question to you. the house energy and commerce committee met yesterday with the ceo tick-tock and all of the rising tensions that are going on with china. do you in any way believe that some of those tensions can at some point end up just what we were experiencing during covid as it relates to asian hate crimes? well first of all, thank you for your kind remarks. some of my services department. we did convict dylann roof of murdering people at another emanuel church and we've successfully defended the conviction on appeal. we being there were many people involved. i was the head of the civil rights division during the appeal, but many, many people worked on that, including people in the obama administration and. later in the trump administration, with respect with to hostilities wi

the justice department has an enforcement capability. we don't in congress.they have a lot more information and evidence than we were able to accumulate and we accumulated a lot. we accumulated certainly evidence, powerful evidence, that donald trump was told by his own top justice department officials that these fraud claims he was peddling were b.s. he was told this by his own attorney general and the top deputy attorney generals and this is powerful proof of knowledge and intent, that is, he knows this is fraudulent and yet he continues to push it. similarly, out on the mall on january 6th, he's told these people won't go through the metal detectors because they're armed, and his response, then take down the f'ing mags they're not here to hurt me. this has been a powerful evidence of the presence state of mind, his knowledge and complicity, and these are key things that the special counsel and the grand jury are considering. >> and you talked about the people who did come before your committee and pounded sand, didn't answer questions. there were also, of

and if he was able to get a deal like that, i would think either the justice department has suddenly become stupid or incompetent or something worse was going on. you can't give someone immunity while you're still investigating them because what if afterwards the justice department found that actually hunter biden was actually on the payroll of the chinese government and was getting this money for that, or that he was using the money for some other criminal activity? that's why the department would never offer a deal like the one he thought he was getting. so that's a bad day for him that he almost got this sweetheart deal and didn't get it. so it's going to delay it but also means his deal is going to be different now. >> jonathan: right. julian, i gather that you are of the opinion, as some others on the republican side are, chris christie among them, that we are headed towards a special counsel now that it's going to come out of the hands of the doj specifically. >> we may be. one of the problems in american politics is democrat blindly defend democrats, republicans blindly defend

people like jeffrey clark, a former justice department official, key to try to use the justice department to support the false fraud claims. john eastman, so they don't necessarily need to get a target letter because they know they're targets because the fbi and justice department went to them and did searches. so they are on notice they're potential targets in this investigation. and then obviously, the other factor is that it is possible because we know that prosecutors are still doing investigation, still gathering evidence evidence, it's possible that they first tackle the president in an indictment and then go to the other parts of the alleged conspiracy later on. >> we know in the michigan investigation, they arrested and charged these fake electors just in michigan but that's a fake investigation not a federal one. stick around i said to bring in jamie and elie honing. if there are charges the justice department will have to release the indictment. what specifically will we learn from that document should it appear? >> if there is an indictment, i think it is fair to bet this will

wolf, it ique significant for the justice department to take a step like this. this is the thing that happens at the end of a criminal investigation. and with donald trump it is the sort of thing that you do when you are formally giving him the opportunity to come to you and potentially make your own case or speak to the grand jury in your defense that is what happened before he was indicted in florida for the documents case, a totally separate case as far as we know but the special counsel's office is telling him, their investigation around the 2020 election is appearing to come to the end. trump can come to the grand jury by thursday of this week, if he would like to, and they're indicating he's likely to be indicted. this is a sprawling investigation that's taken place over many months even prior to jack smith's appointment. but the justice department is tight lipped right now as to what's coming in if a case here if trump will have any co-conspirators or if it will be a conspiracy case meaning it will be against multiple people, what the charges might be, so

justice to end weaponization of the agencies. we'll have a new fbi director on day one, we'll have big changes at the department of justice. americans across the political spectrum need to have confidence that what is going on is based on the rule of law, not based on what political tribe you are in. and then the second thing i'd say is this country needs to have a debate about the country's future. if i'm the nominee, we'll be able to focus on president biden's failures and i'll be able to articulate a positive vision for the future. i don't think that it serves us good to have a presidential election focused on what happened four years ago in january. and so i want to focus on looking forward. i don't want to look back. i do not want to see him. i hope he doesn't get charged. i don't think that it will be good for the country. but at the same time, i've got to focus on looking forward and that's what we'll do. >> meanwhile trump is asking top republican allies on capitol hill to rush to his defense with criminal charges potentially looming in the election probe. house speaker kevin mccarthy who initially criticized trump

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the way in which members of his party have attacked people in federal law enforcement, the justice department the fbi most specifically. and i want to hear a full-throated defense of the dedicated men and women in the department of justice and at the fbi, from the leaders of the justice department, from members of the law enforcement community, from members of the democratic party. it comes down to simply that. from concerned republicans about who these people are. they follow the facts. they follow the law. if that happens to be discomforting to a person who was our -- was our president, well, you know, so be it. this is a case, this is a set of circumstances that really is going to test our system. you know, this is system that we find hard to deal with, because the founders never envisioned that we would have such a thing. they could talk about a whole variety of things, impeachable offenses, high crimes and misdemeanors, but if you could bring ben franklin and james madison back and describe this situation to them, they would have been shocked to hear that this is what america in 2023 is,

do you worry about any public perception the justice department may be tainted?ecause obviously they are doing a lot of other works such as the investigation into donald trump and election interference. >> all of our great resources in this country are being called into question. whether it's the justice department, the supreme court, the congress of the united states, the presidency, i think the noise for the average voter is such that they just want to step back from it. in this case, you have -- they say it's a sweetheart deal, but when you appreciate what happened here, if this want to trial, would -- went to would a set of jurors find him guilty when he has paid back all his taxes that he owed and diversion situation where he purchased a gun when he was using drugs and said he wasn't, those are somewhat lame, in terms of getting a jury to convict him. what may not be lame, though, is the foreign agents registration act which was the one that paul manafort got convicted of and then of course donald trump was successful in pardoning him. that is something we s

you do not have to send a target letter at the justice department. but it's common practice.sends target letters because within a week or so of the mar-a-lago indictment, donald trump did in fact send a letter to donald trump. assuming that is happening here this is a very telling moment into the investigation. >> what's the process now? >> so, the process, jack smith sent this letter, donald trump will assume the truth of this given four days to appear before a grand jury, he will not do that, that would be incredibly self-ingrim criminating to do t. jack smith assuming he's given the grand jury, saying here are the defendants i propose to charge and here are the charges and instruct the grand jury as to the law. and take a vote from the grand jury, assuming they vote yes which grand juries almost always do, we will have an indictment. it could be sealed. when means in a moment in time there's an indictment, but we don't actually get to see it. and that's on a fairly short time frame. >> in the mar-a-lago documents case, he received a target letter, he was indicted. >> withi

-- that we believe the justice department is preparing at this time since they have given donald trump that target letter outlining exactly what they believe they could be charging him with and telling him he's very likely to be arrested and charged here in this federal court in washington d.c. but a long day ahead of us. there's one prosecutor we know of who's here on the premises already working with the grand jury. it will be behind closed doors. but we are waiting now and watching exactly for what the justice department might do next and if donald trump himself will come in to testify. that too is pretty unlikely, kate. but there are a couple things that could still happen today but we're waiting for that indictment. >> thank you so much. there is a lot of action that could be happening where you are this morning. so we'll still close. caitlyn lays out the questions of the dominos thagd fall today we'll see. >> a lot happening over the next few hours, days for sure. >>> and trump's team is hunkering down and making calls to find out if special counsel jack smith has other evidence

the department of justice.tleblowers were removed from the federal investigation in the past 100 biden tax violations communications obtained by the first whistle blowers. lawyers show that the second whistle blower was threatened with allegations of criminal conduct after raising concerns about the handling of 100 biden's case, of course, as we now know, these agents report so the department of justice could cut a sweetheart deal with hunter would ask chris christie and other apologized for this behavior. is everybody lying? all the whistleblowers from the fbi. the whistleblowers from the i r s are they all lying? no, i don't think they're all lying. let's continue. there's more from my book. although the fbi director christopher wray and attorney general garland claim ignorance and distance himself from another scandal, this time specifically targeting traditionalists and the catholic church, here's what we know thanks to kyle surfin, a former fbi special agent, federal whistleblower u s. air force vet. one c

mark: there's a guy in the department of justice that leads the justice department counterintelligenceision. he's been heading up the investigation behind the scenes. the little guy has a napoleonic complex he thinks is a tough guy. and uses the resources the government against the former president and there is an allegation against him by not a cockamamie lawyer but a highly respected lawyer in washington, d.c. and he says and somebody words to the lawyer is representing the codefendant in this case. in aid to donald trump we know you're seeking to be a superior court judge in washington which is a competitive competition. he says it probably one her if you could get your client to testify against donald trump. where i come from a philadelphia with called extortion that's what that's called extortion there is a secret hearing going on behind the scenes. here's what i would do not bring up another one, abrading motion trade that is a legal tool to compel evidence from the prosecution you can use a legal motion for exculpatory and impeachment evidence for the prosecution. i want every b

you have the department of justice letting crimes lapse when they didn't have to and now a prosecutors just shrugging away a judge's question saying well, have you ever seen anything like this and he is like no. like is he some pedestrian in pn that courtroom. >> finish this off. the fact that this senilingly cozy relationship between the doj and hunter biden's team has been exposed for all to see now, does this really demand a special counsel take over this case? >> john, in a perfect situation, it would. the problem, i think -- you know, everything chris christie said today about this is right except the fact that we are now five years down the road and every bit of delay you have you are losing more counts to the statute of limitations so i think what we ought to demand right now, what the public and the congress should be demanding is that the justice department right away indict every readily provable felony count whether it's tax, guns, or whatever else they have now, indict it, stop the clock. that doesn't stop them from negotiating a plea agreement. >> john: all right. andy mc

they have broad oversight authority over the justice department.ney in delaware, has full -- he will be coming up to talk to congress in the coming weeks or months. he is not likely to provide specifics as to the specific decisions he made along the way, investigative steps and so on, but congress can still ask. sometimes it's who has the loudest microphone can make the latest statement about how the justice system works, even if they're not simply based in reality. >> elliott williams, please stand by. >>> let's actually discuss today's developments with democratic congressman robert garcia. congressman, thank you for being with us. originally you were scheduled to talk about uaps, but obviously we have to ask about the latest developments in court. what do you make of this judge pumping the brakes on this plea deal that hunter biden had agreed to? >> look, i think the most important thing to remember is hunter biden is a private citizen, and anyone in this space has a right to have their day in court, and the judge has a right to make changes to

so we actually just heard from trump himself and he's accusing the justice department of weaponizing the federal government against him. some republicans here on capitol hill were saying that very thing while democrats want prosecutors to be able to do their job. >> if you say something about that election, they want to put you in jail for the rest of your life. it's a disgrace. in iowa tuesday night, former president donald trump continued to call the justice department's investigations politically motivated. it's unbelievable. some of the former president's biggest supporters in congress were quick to jump to his defense. >> after trump said he could soon be indicted again, this time for his role in the efforts to overturn the 2020 presidential election. what jack smith is doing weaponizing the department of justice against president trump in a complete lie. special counsel jack smith's office is leading the justice department's investigation into any attempts to interfere with the transfer of power after the election, trump posted on truth social tuesday that he received a letter

the justice department telling texas it plans to take legal action against the state for deploying these floating barriers along the rio grande. the inflatable buoys are part of governor greg abbott's efforts to curb illegal border crossings. the doj threat comes after mexico sent its own note to the u.s. with concerns that the buoys violate treaties and impedes water flow. what more are you learning? >> reporter: this is really an escalation between the administration of texas governor greg abbott and the biden administration over this hot button political issue of immigration. the justice department threatening to sue texas for those floating barriers that have been placed in the rio grande to prevent migrants from crossing the u.s./mexico b the justice department writing the state of texas actions humanitarian concerns, present serious risks to public safety and the environment and may interfere with the federal government's ability to carry out its official duties. in this letter, the justice department cites a clause in existing law that bars preventing navigation of u.s. waters. th

>> president trump. >> what these facts show is we don't have a two-teared system of justice, we have one department of justice that goes after criminals regardless of party ideology. all of these folks were convicted under the administrations of three separate republican attorneys general. it is not the fault of the f.b.i. the donald trump surrounded himself with criminals. donald trump brought that upon himself. thank you to the f.b.i. or exposing the cess pool of corruption of these trump associates and now -- explain what your missions are and how critical they are. a series of basic questions. the f.b.i.'s mission includes count irrelevant trims, correct? >> yes. >> and that means f.b.i. tries to stop terrorist attacks on american soil, right? >> yes. >> f.b.i.'s commission includes counter intelligence, correct? >> yes. >> it works to stop espionage of american companies and organizations, is that right? >> yes. >> f.b.i.'s mission includes stopping cybercrime, right? >> correct. >> the mission includes stopping corruption and stopping weapons of mass destruction from being detonated on americ

the biden department of justice. the democratic party's department of justice.erfering in the election and trying to do many other things. i asked my brothers and sisters, i said go back about six months and pull out all the leaks from the new york times and washington post and cnn involving donald trump. here it is. look at this. you see this, these are the leaks from grand juries to witnesses to monologue go to the nature of the classified documents leak after leak after leak and i limited it to cnn, the new york times and the washington post. look at this. don't jerk around the former department of justice. is this how you run a case? is this how you have a tradition in the country that represents every damn thing. look at this. this is not intended to be a real case. here is the aba rules, special responsibilities for prosecutor, rule 3.8 and i cut through to the chase. the prosecutor in a criminal case shall, except for the statements that are necessary to inform the public, serving a legitimate law enforcement purpose, refrain from making extrajudicial com

it didn't desuede the justice department from bringing a case. in this situation, trump appeared to be of the belief that it wouldn't change anything. this was already a done deal. the justice department had been working for quite a long time on a potential case here, had indicated he was a target, but it is one things that happened at the end of an investigation. social media today.ize it on ut o a statement saying, my attorneys had a productive meetinwith the doj this morning explaining in detail that i did nothing wrong was advised and an indictment of me would only further destroy our country. no indication of notice was given during the meeting. very close to the read out we have gotten from our own source here's at cnn. >> please standby. ben, i'm curious to get your perspective on that reporting. that trump's lawyers went in there not talking about the facts of the case or to seek what the special counsel was considering charging trump for, but to present the argument that indicting a former president over his efforts to overturn the 2020

attorney in delaware. >> ethat's not entirely accurate because the department of justice division up h march 16 to 2023 had not yet approved discretion or decline charges comes at the u.s. attorney had no authority to charge the charges without the department of justice tax division's approval before hand. >> i'd like to say something about this quick. >> let me come back to you because i have a limited amountg of time, but you say hunter biden's unpaid taxes were around $2 million and he's now paid to those back taxes and as i understand it, and he's been criminally charged for not paying taxes. will you just explain how people can be charged for not paying taxes even after they've made amends in going forward to pay them? >> under the statute, when someone fails to timely pay their taxes usually do april 15th, once the date occurs, if they have a known tax liability and they failed to pay it, the client has already been committed. the fact they paid the taxes after, that's a mitigating factor the judge can use the discretion. this does not include of the overall hundred thousand dol

trump received the target letter from the justice department and is reporting in georgia that it is looking at charging criminal conspiracy. this all have to do with efforts to steal the 2020 election. when congress certified the 2020 election results after the insurrection and went a number of election deniers lost in 2020, there was talk of democracy held. do you think we will look back on this week as another example of democracy holding? >> well, it is still holding. it is not done yet, but the challenges here are unique. it is funny you mention this, i was just talking to a senior official in a government department, and i ask this person an honest question that i did not know the answer to. i said, can you be president from jail? i did not know the answer to that, and this person said that they did not know the answer and that it is amazing that we are at this place. this is a live question. finally, the answer is yes, probably. the answer i've been getting so far is yeah, maybe you can run the country from jail, but what it means is that we are facing one novel situation after anothe

. >>> former president trump is the target of another justice department investigation. we have the latest in the classified documents case. >>> developing out of north korea, a u.s. national is detained. the u.s. officials says the soldier crossed over voluntarily and was to be sent home after facing disciplinary by the military. the demilitarized zone is one of the world's most heavily guarded land dividing the countries. >>> former president donald trump says he is the target of a justice department investigation into efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 presidential election. he made the claim on truth social this morning. he said he received a letter sunday night which can proceed and indictment. a spokesman for the special council has not commented. >>> we are learning two sheriff deputy's have died within the past week in santa clara county. the sheriff's office said one was killed in a head on crash involving a suspected drunk driver on saturday. another died yesterday and he suffered a medical emergency as he was leaving for work. >>> some bay area leader

information that comes out from these proceedings going to congress, the harder it is for the justice department to look like they're doing neutral justice. that's why you need a special counsel. there's a conflict of interest with president biden and the government that he leads inn investigating improperly prosecuting his son, who has said that he was actually fulling money to joe biden. >> neil: so much to ask you. could be a dumb question. the one being if his lawyers, hunter biden's lawyers dragged their feet to the extent for this plea bargaining event that was supposed to be a slam dunk. but that allowed time to hear this testimony from whistle-blowers and at least plant some tout out there that had they moved more quickly that agreement could have been signed, sealed and delivered and for hunter biden, a memory? >> that's a really good question. from the hunter position, why did they take so long to wrap this up? you're going to get a good deal. you want it signed, sealed and delivered as fast as possible. i think what happened here is that they were trying to get a kind of immunity in a

including appointing a -- of special councils at the justice department to go after various figures, e powers of the department of homeland security and the intelligence community to monitor rivals. i mean this is pretty scary stuff. and there is a lot of episodes in the first term where trump was prevented from doing these things, that he won't be a second time. one of the frequent things i saw him try to do in the department that we were running was weaponize emergency aid. if a tornado or a wildfire happened in a blue state, donald trump was very eager to withhold that aid unless he could exact concessions from whoever the democratic governor or politicians were. often that was thwarted, the president was told you cannot do that legally, you have to disperse aid to victims, but it is those types of things that, in the second term, don trump will look to the lord over the localities that he says, that he sees as a verse to his politics. that is very concerning and heard from a lot of trump officials, again, department by department, the interest in weaponizing those powers for polit

this is a case which is being brought by the justice department.ng brought by federal prosecutors. the judicial branch of the united states must remain separate from the executive branch, and that must be respected by the president, whether he is named joe biden or someone else. so i would expect no comment on the details of this case now, or in the future. no matter how much, again, white noise is thrown up to try to push joe biden into making a comment, which would be inappropriate. folly: john, your thoughts. how do you see this progressing? it is complicated, is in, to deal with classified documents in court. it is. guest: so, commenting on what scott just said, that is not the only reason joe biden won't comment on this. he is himself still under investigation by a special counsel for possession in his own right of classified documents. and there are all of these reports out there from whistleblowers and whatnot, that his son, hunter biden, just got a real sweetheart deal in delaware and that the department of justice obstructed that investiga

we could get a news release from the justice department. if it's sealed, there is some period of time where we wouldn't see details. then it would have to be unsealed by the judge. we will wait and see how and if that transpires. >> chuck, given what we know from jack smith and the way his earlier indictment in florida read, would this likely be a so-called speaking indictment where he would tell a narrative? >> typically so. there's advantages, i think, to the public obviously in receiving a speaking indictment, because you can see the fruits of the investigation and understand the theory and the facts behind the charging decision. there's also an evidentiary advantage to prosecutors in laying out the full case in an indictment, because if at trial the government can always argue to the presiding judge, your honor, it's alleged in the indictment, we should be able to prove it up to the jury. it sometimes helps grease the skids for the introduction of evidence. i do think there's a public benefit after a long and sensitive investigation in

the department of justice specifically deleted a section that implicated the biden administration's open and border policies and correlation to the sex trafficking of children. the department of justice is blatant to move to distance, jo biden's, harmful policies from the global crime of sex trafficking should be no surprise to any of us who have seen the bleach and sexualization and abuse of children. this administration is comfortable with promoting. that's what i've discussed this with political analyst on, so making sure and starting so lovely to see you. thanks for joining us now. won't be here. justice department to start fund declined to comment on these changes. so could possibly be the reason they decided to read that to this section of the website. do you think as well, i think it, it plays into what if you're a commentator your analyst just said there, which is that it implicates the bite. administration's open border policy. essentially, you're dealing with an invasion, as some people would call it, but upwards of 10000000 immigrants come funding across the border and these l

hunter biden has already been prosecuted by the department of justice.t like the doj's asleep at the wheel for crimes that are being committed, or alleged crimes being committed. when you spoke to people about his threats to prosecute biden and his family, what did they tell you? >> look. there is a definite reservoir of skepticism among republicans, conservatives, people that staffed the last justice department about the handling of the hunter biden prosecution. i don't totally downplay that. however, i don't think that people -- the people from the first term who adopt this framework with that trump espousing at all. they don't think that there is this invariable tune track system of justice that one track is about pursuing him, the other track is about just letting everybody off. for the most part, people didn't buy this theory of the case, but found it worrisome. it's been one thing for people like you or me to be concerned about a scenario like this. we are concerned in the first administration, we were concerned about a potential second administrat

justice. we have one department of justice that goes after criminals regardless of party ideology.ll of these folks were convicted under the administration of three separate republican attorneys general. it is not the fault of the f.b.i. that donald trump surrounded himself with criminals. donald trump brought that upon himself. thank you to the f.b.i. for exposing the cesspool of corruption of these trump associates. now, aid like to talk about efforts by maga republicans to defund the f.b.i. i think the useful for the f.b.i. to explain to the american people what your missions are and how critical they are. again, series of basic questions. the f.b.i.'s mission includes counterterrorism, correct? director wray: yes. mr. lieu: that means the f.b.i. works to stop terrorist attacks on american soil, right? director wray: yes. mr. lieu: the f.b.i. mission also counterintelligence, stkphrebgt director wray: yes. mr. lieu: that means the f.b.i. works to stop espionage of american companies and organizations, is that right? director wray: yes. mr. lieu: it includes stopping cyber crime?

we were well ahead of the justice department, which is extremely unusual. generally, the justice department can act with much more alacrity than congress, which is very cumbersome in its investigations. i think the doj move quickly when it came to the people who have broken into the capitol that day and assaulted police officers. but it has taken a long time to get into this point. i look forward to the conclusion of this investigation and whatever decision that the special counsel makes, he has been, i think, by the book. what we have seen before, he doesn't overcharge, but he also has been addressing the violations of law, including those by the former president. so, we found evidence of a conspiracy to defraud the united states. we obviously found evidence of the president's complicity in the events of january 6th and the interference with the peaceful transfer of power. the special counsel may choose some subset of those violations of law, for which the evidence is the most powerful to charge the former president. >> it is a complicated case. you know t

. >> coming up next, the justice department discusses disability rights and -- in the criminal justiceystem. at an event commemorating the 33rd anniversary of the americans with disabilities act. topics included ada violations during arrests, mental health, and the relationship between disability discrimination and explicit racial bias. -- implicit racial bias. >> good afternoon everyone, can you please take your seats so we can get started? please take your seats, thank you. >> good afternoon. my name is kristen park, the assistant attorney general for the department of justice, and i am pleased to be here with all of you to celebrate the anniversary of the american -- americans with disabilities act. [applause] >> i want to acknowledge all of our distinguished guests, congressman hoyer, the chair of the eeoc justice department leaders and more, we are pleased to host all of you today. 33 years ago, congress sought to safeguard the rights of people with disabilities who quote, fully anticipate in all aspects of society. and to ensure equality of opportunity, independent living, and ec

>> we are going to go live to the justice department on disability rights criminal justice system. the coverage here on c-span2. >> i am pleased to be here with all of you to celebrate the anniversary of the americans with disabilities act. [cheering and applauding] >> i want to acknowledge all of our guests. chair of the eeoc and we are pleased to host all of you today. thirty-three years ago congress sought to save rights for people with disabilities to fully participate all taxes of society and in short only of opportunity. independent living and independent self-sufficiency. this has afforded countless numbers of people with disabilities the opportunity without architectural barrier to work in an environment that supports success through usable action and unity celebrate the progress achieved. one area of focus is the interaction will sit here today people have declared unnecessary interaction within our country and 25 police encounters you your health issues. she died four days after being arrested for trespassing and failure to appear in court on previous charges. i'm talking

the justice department has reversed course.now saying it no longer believes the former president should be entitled to immunity in the initial defamation case brought against him by the author e. jean carroll. it's a move that will allow the civil lawsuit to move forward to trial. we have cnn legal correspondent paula reid joining us now. this is complicated. everyone thinks they know of the defamation case. there's more than one. >> let's go through this chronologically. several years ago when trump was in office e. jean carroll alleged he raped her in a department store in the mid '90s. while he was president he responded to this denying the allegation and saying she, quote, wasn't his type. then she sued him for defamation. the trump justice department and attorney general bill barr said, wait a second, as president he has immunity. he can't be sued for things he says while president. that was controversial, but what was more surprising is when president biden was elected and we had a new attorney general, a new justice depa

and the ongoing justice department investion

>> he is saying quite explicitly that the justice department is saying that charges may be near for him in the january 6th investigation, and this is the investigation being conducted by special counsel jack smith and it has looked at donald trump very much so about what he did in the white house, and what he did after the 2020 election as well as others, and it has looked at the behavior of others and brought in many, many witnesses here, and at this time, that investigation appears to be so ripe that the justice department has been able to tell donald trump that the time is now if you want to speak to the grand jury in your own defense. that is something they allow people who are targets of an investigation to do, but it is often something that only happens at the very end of an investigation where the charging decision is so close that an indictment could come if in days if not weeks, and what trump is saying here is that the justice department sent a letter of sunday night of this week stating that he is the target of the january 6th grand jury investigation which is a federal inves