>> politics have no place in the work of the justice department -- >> are you aware of anything the justice department did to that? >> not in the civil rights department -- not in the civil justice department. >> did the civil justice department do anything? in this case? >> i won't bring that back to my colleagues -- >> i will give you the answer, they did not do anything. they did not do a thing. that gives you the answer from earlier. it shows you help clinical you are. when texas passed that bill in september 20 21, eight days later, the department of justice announced something into that bill. help me pass the state senate and the governor. you guys are in there contesting that 8 days later. you guys have something in new mexico. that is an assault from the government. it did not go to the legislator. the department of justice does nothing. >> the civil rights division is deeply committed to enforcing the laws that this body gave us. committed to standing up for the rights of all americans, chairman. >> based on some of your answers, not knowing what is on missouri v. biden. that is wh

>> politics have no place in the justice department. >> are you aware of anything that the justice department ? >> not in the civil rights the department. ng expected the justice department to anything? >> we enforced the laws that congress gave us. >> in this case, did the justice department do anything? >> i will have to -- >> i will give you the answer. they did not do a darn thing which gets back to the point mr. mcclintock was making earlier. it shows how political you are because when a pro-life bill was passed by texas, on gi september 1, 2021, eight days later, the department of justice announces an investigation into that. that is a bill that passed the state house and senate and was signed by the governor and you are contesting that eight days later but you have something in new mexico, which is an direct assault on the first amendment. the governor, the department of justice does nothing. >> the civil rights division is deeply committed to the laws that is body gave us a committed to standing up for the civil rights of all americans. >> you can say it but based on some of your othe

protecting civil rights is essential to the department of justice. in fact, the department was created in 1870 in part to confront the ku klux klan and others who used terror and violence to prevent black people from exercising their civil and constitutional rights. nearly 100 years later, congress gave new energy to this work by enacting legislation that established the civil rights division and empowered it to protect the civil rights of every person in america. our work remains vital as we continue sadly, to see acts of bigotry, violence, and discrimination in many aspects of life. the division combats these harms by enforcing the constitution and the protections enshrined in law by congress. we work to ensure that every eligible american has voice in our democracy by confronting voting discrimination and we work to advance equal opportunity in employment, housing, education and more. we safeguard the rights of people with disabilities and we defend the civil rights of those who defend our nation in the armed forces both past and present. we work t

does that mean the biden justice department can charge biden? host:id prosecution based on any conduct aay position finds no support in constitutional text or logic. what you think about the strength of that argument? guest: i would say jack smith is getting used to getting reversed unanimously by the supreme court like he did by the bogus prosecution of bob mcdonald. jack smith won a conviction. donald was a likely buys presidential contender in 2016 and that was reversed in 2016 eight-zero. jack smith is a political scud missile who sent in to take out presidential contenders like he did with bob mcdonald. on the presidential immunity argument there is president in the civil context. the president of the united states is a -- is immune from civil prosecution or the perimeter of his official acts under that nixon case we discussed 40 years ago. if federal judges are immune from criminal prosecution absolutely immune from criminal prosecution, and so are members of congress, why wanted the president of the united it would destroy our country. an

but the white house is seeking to block her testimony we've also subpoenaed the department of justice for audio recordings and transcript of president biden's interview with special counsel, her. these were due the morning of the state of the union only this morning. a couple of hours before today's hearing, the department of justice finally, provided the transcript of president biden's interview with special counsel her. the timing is not coincidental. although we've had little time to review the transcripts from what we have seen. it is clear that the white house did not want special counsel hur's final report before to be released. the white house has refused to be transparent with the american people about the president's mishandling of classified documents and worse, they have appeared to have lied about the timeline about who handled the documents and even about the contents of president biden's interview with special counsel her that is why today's hearing is important. transparencies, what we seek today and we look forward to special counsel hur's testimony. you'll >> boat gen

that is the justice department's legal obligation. s what the american people that is what they deserve. i am grateful to the attorneys and staff of the department's anti-trust division for their tireless work on this case on behalf of the american people. i'll now turn the podium over to the deputy attorney general. >> thank you very much, mr. attorney general, and good morning, everyone. in our fight against corporate misconduct, the department's approach is straightforward and relentless. we identify the most serious wrongdoers, whether individuals or companies, and then we focus our full energy■) and devote all necessary resources to holding them accountable. accountability promotes fairness, it drives deterrence and advances the rule of law. by holding all companies to the same standards, our approach to corporate enforcement benefits all americans. americans who deserve and who demand a justice system that holds accountable those who break the law. for over a century, our federal anti-trust laws have been a critical tool for prot

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that is a justice department's legal obligation, that is what the american people expect. that is what they deserve. i am grateful to the attorneys and staff for the department's antitrust division for their tireless work on this case on behalf of the american people. i'll now turn the podium over to the deputy attorney general. >> thank you very much, mr. attorney general. and good morning, everyone. >> as their conversation continues in washington, we will stay on it and be monitoring it, if the attorney general takes some questions, we will go immediately back to it. i want to bring back nbc's brian cheung. also we're joined this morning by tim woo, the former antitrust adviser to president biden. brian, this is pretty significant. >> yeah, certainly. we heard from the attorney general merrick garland over there. what was interesting is that he really tried to set up the case for apple abusing its power to essentially force people into apple products when other competitors would otherwise be able to interplay with apple products like an apple watch, where you might be ab

and thanks to the actions like we are taking today alongside our partners in the department of justicem. thank you. reporter: attorney general,an question about antitrust. obviously the department is suing google and other departments suing amazon and facebook. thos=qe are ■vur business success stories of modern history, what does it say to you they're all accused of illegal anti-competitive behavior and if yououme in an oc question -- >> first the anti-trust fund questi a maybe i'll have more success with that one. the justice department does not have a different rule for the powerless or the powerful poor. we have one rule, we look at the facts and the law and make the appropriate determinations. with respect to resource÷2■ñ institution with lots of resources, that in our view is harming the american economy and the american people, it's important for us toe our resources to protect the american people. and that is certainly the case where individual americans have no abilitythemselves. reporter: and reporter: you personally have come in further criticism, particularly from the white

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ability to maintain that hold on the marketplace has put it squarely in the crosshairs of the us justice department today, justice filing a sweeping antitrust first lawsuit against apple accusing the tech giant of illegally monopolizing the smartphone market for consumers. that is meant fewer choices. higher prices and fees, lower-quality smartphones, apps, and accessories, and less innovation from apple and its competitors at the heart of the antitrust suit, the alligator question that apple has set up its own closed ecosystem that limits apple users to only using apple products. that's also known as the walled garden at the center of the walled garden, the iphone. >> and that's really the centerpiece of apples empire. it's, it's what has made it such a dominant company for so long. >> one example of fair practices alleged by the justice department that apple degrades the texts that iphones receive from android phones. those green texts iphones get from non iphones. >> the justice department says that messages that are sent between iphones or more secure because they're encrypted. but when you're

as one former justice department official told "the post," you couldn't use the "t" word. meaning you couldn't mention trump. the way "the washington post" reports it, the department of justice was so worried about looking like they were prosecuting donald trump forg political reasons, that they gave trump treatment no other defendant in america would get. they effectively ignored him despite the fact he was at the very center of this plot. it wasn't until intrepid reporting and the house january 6thho committee started unearthg troves of evidence implicating trump and his top aides in the january 6th riot, which, duh, it wasn't until all of that started coming up publicly, that the justice department actually began investigating trump in earnest. ultimately the fbi didn't open an investigation into bitrump. the guy at the beating heart of everything, until 15 months after the capitol attack. key witnesses in the meantime may have forgotten specifics or deleted e-mails. and it also set the actual prosecution of this case back more than a year. and now the window of time in

and the calculations within the department of justice changed. once again, the department deferred to trump and his political realities. to avoid anything that might even look like political prosecution attorney general merrick garland appointed jack smith as special counsel. smith worked really quite quickly but ultimately he didn't charge trump until june of the following year. that set back the prosecution timeline another eight months. now, the classified documents case is currently scheduled, scheduled to go on trial on may 20th but that date is widely expected to be bumped back. potentially delayed, that trial just past november election and missing that he date by a matter of months after being delayed for nearly a year by, yes, judge cannon, but also indecision, infighting, and the passing of the case to a special counsel at the department of justice. >> looking back now, do you think that it took too long to bring these cases, maybe? please georgia prosecutors follow the fax and there are cases when they felt like they were ready. please

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that's what the apple system justice department says. that's what the apple system is doing. >> how is apple responded? >> what apple says or what the justice department here is doing is going to be essentially a game changer for apple. and will affect the way consumers get their products, including, they say will harm innovation. they also say that what the government is trying to do is to take a heavy hand in designing people false technology essentially saying that the justice department and the government is going to start being essentially more in your pocket, right? in trying to design what the future of your devices look like. now, the justice department says that you can look at some of the internal messaging inside some emails from inside apple and what they say, you can see happening is that apple is not only hurting innovation, but in some cases, this more secure apps, more secure products are being thwarted because of apple system >> evan perez. thank you so much coming up the space launch today, a boarded with just 20 second

are you confident the department of justice and the states that are a party to this will win? a.g. would not bring this case if we were not prepared to win it. on behalf of 16 bipartisan states and the department of justice, we are prepared for that fight. anchor: interesting conversation. the attorney general of the state of new jersey, thank you for joining us. a.g. platkin: thank you for having me. anchor: russia launched dozens of missiles on ukraine's capital overnight, injuring 17 people, including a child. it was the biggest attack on kyiv in weeks. debris cascaded on to and people. security video capture to the impact on the ground, shattering glass. -- captured the impact on the ground, shattering glass. we have more on the strikes. reporter: this is the aftermath of yet another russian missile attack on ukraine's capital. 31 missiles launched overnight. the biggest barrage of missiles that have launched for some time here. ukraine's air defenses managed to shoot all of them down, but when they do that, debris falls to the ground and often causes a lot of damage, a lot of d

and i understand the justice department just secured the first ever environmental justice settlement,re in alabama, where the states public health department has, was found to be negligent, in one of its heavily-populated black counties. what more can you tell us about the settlement, and how it fits into the doj's environmental justice mission? >> this justice department is deeply committed to racial justice, and racial equity, and ensuring that we have environmental justice for vulnerable communities, that's a part of that work. and just a few miles from here in -- county, alabama, we indeed secured a historic first of its kind environmental justice settlement to deal with the lack of access to adequate waste water removal systems, which has exposed families and children to raw sewage. so we are working to put in place a remedy, and provide relief. so, whether you are talking about lead laced water, or illegal dumping, or exposure to raw sewage and health consequences that flow from that, we are doing everything that we can to stand up and ensure that we have environmental justice f

the department of justice has a enduring legacy taking on the biggest and toughest monopolies in historyd oil, at&t, and microsoft. today we add to that distinguished legacy by■announct against apple from monopolizeing smart the department of justice, states attorneys general announced a case against a different platform monopolist. that successful litigation and remedy created opportunities for the next generation of technologies, including and especially apple. 25 years ago, it would have been difficult to imagine the innovation that would follow from the proliferation of mobile devices and services. that historic anti-trust case, however, played pivotal role in ushering the next generation of technologies. apple itself was a significant beneficiary of that case and the remedy paveed the way for apple to launch itunes, ipod, even iphone. free from anti-competitive restrictions, excessive fees, and retaliation. today we stand here once again to protect competition and innovation for the next generation of technology. smart phones have so revolutionized american life that it can be hard

that, quote, what clark was attempting to do was essentially a coup at the department of justice. n testified and reaffirmed that clark was not acting based on the truth. >> you indicated that mr. clark had a different view than yourself about what the department's posture ought to be towards the election controversies. correct? >> yes. and unfortunately his wasn't based on the facts and the law. >> facts and the law getting their day at a disbarment hearing. it's where we start the hour with some of our most favorite reporters and friends of the show. politico national correspondent and msnbc contributor betsey woodruff swan is back. plus former acting assistant attorney general for national security at the justice department, msnbc legal analyst mary mccord is back. and former january 6th select committee member congresswoman joe lofgren of california is back with us. congresswoman, i start with you. this was some of the most masterful story telling the committee did in public hearings because, one, it's difficult to get any person that works at top at doj to speak in particularl

so, the justice department will be, along with the defense department and in the intelligence community think, bearing the brunt of a lot of the retribution presidency. i will come back to that in a minute. i will try to explain how i think it will work. i think what this will mean, really, the second point is we will be in continuing crisis, turmoil, chaos, perhaps, amounting to constitutional problems throughout hilly -- throughout a second trump term because he will begin where he left off and pick it up again as if the intervening four years had not happened. and since he was on a downhill trajectory in terms of his adherence to constitutional norms and the rule of law, he will be on her downhill trajectory from day one. the best i can say is, he will be a lame-duck president when he was -- is sworn in again. so we can see the endpoint if we can just make it there. and they also say in the forward that people will find out, if they did not get it in the first term, that donald trump does not have a philosophy. he does not think in policy terms as we understand that. he thinks anecdo

law enforcing the law protects consumers from higher prices and fewer choices that is the justice department's legal application. that is what the american people expect that is what they deserve. i am grateful for the attorneys and staff for the department's anti-trust division, for their tireless work on this case. on behalf of the american people. i'll now turn the podium over to the deputy attorney general >> thank you very much, mr. attorney general. >> all right. there's the attorney general, merrick garland announcing this major antitrust suit against apple. essentially accusing the tech giant of constructing things with its iphone to basically knock out the rest of the competition in a very lucrative market. let's talk about it with cnn legal analyst and former department of justice counsel, carry core and trip mikel tech reporter for the new york times, who has been covering apple since 2016 carry you just heard the attorney general just a few moments ago here with me in the studio. i mean, they are making no bones about this. they think that apple essentially what an iphone monopoly,

you said it's it's been released by the justice department to congress. so perhaps we all will see some of it. evan perez has seen some of it. his reporting this morning on the issue. and again, this is something that president biden himself took issue within the original report, bringing up his memory of the death of his son, beau. this is a quote from evan's reporting. the transcript shows that the president brought brought up his son amid a broader discussion about his handling of sensitive documents as he mold his future after leaving public office after five decades, asked for it, kept papers that he was working on. biden began a story framing the context as the 2017, 2018 era, the president brought up the son beau, who he said it encouraged him to remain politically we engage, remember in this timeframe, my son is either deployed or is dying. biden said, according to the transcript, the president brought up his son's death and you remember the month and day, what month did bow die? oh god, may 30. several people in the room interjected to remind him

here are a few examples the justice department lays out in this lawsuit.apps that would make it easier for users to switch between competing smart phone platforms, suppresses cloud streaming so users wouldn't need to pay for apple's expensive hardware, excludes cross-platform messaging apps, makes imessaging compatible with android phones and diminishes the functionality of not apple smart watches, the lawsuit says these examples are, quote, hardly exhaustive, rather they exemplify the innovation it has cycled and apple's strategy of using its power over apps distribution and apps creation to selectively block threatening innovations. as you know, number of companies have criticized apple over what they call anti-competitive practices. when example the device tracker tile claims apple made it more difficult to use its product on an iphone around the same time apple rolled out its own air tags. gaming company fortnight sued apple for not letting it create its own apps story and taken sizable cut of in apps purchases and paypal has complained if you want to

when he becomes president, he could instruct his justice department to drop the federal cases. would also be much harder for state prosecutors to convict him in office or has mentioned the us supreme court is considering a case about whether trump is actually eligible to hold office. i asked our corresponded william, blue cross, whether we can expect a decision from the supreme court on that today. right, we just heard from that fantastic wrap that ralph gave us. there's just so many things coming at us right now and the trump defense team. we don't know for sure what's going to come out of the supreme court today. they just made an announcement that there will be something coming out. but speculation is quite strong. that is going to deal with this colorado ballot case. and we of course don't know how they're going to rule, but based on the initial proceedings and what court justices are on the record of saying, they seem pretty skeptical that colorado to keep trump off the ballot without any kind of conviction in the civil in the criminal court, so i should say that would bas

who died by suicide over eight years according to the justice department's watchdog.led by the justice department inspector general michael horowitz found accommodation of recurring policy violations and operational failurese to inmate suicides. it is based on a review of 344 inmate deaths from the 2014 to 2021 fiscal years. he said numerous operational and managerial decisions he -- deficiencies crated conditions that contribute to many deaths with proper protocols and resources in place inmate suidpreventable, experts say. i want to get reaction to that from you in a moment. i want to hear from collette peters from the federal prison -- bureau of prisons who spoke about this on the deaths and suicides in the federal prison system. here are her comments. [video] >> we worked to combat contraband to reduce homicides and overdoses. this includes drones, monitoring or terminating cellular can indications, and continually monitoring intelligence and gang activity. to harness all of this intelligence we are creating a new chief inspector position to identify systemwide pa

and judge cannon had been at the justice department, she knows that. raised it is issue number one, that sort of red flag number one as to why is she even raising something that is just internal department guidance. that guidance could be changed by merrick garland any day of the week. second, the rule does not apply . for anyone who has been in the justice department, this is such a red herring. this is why it is completely wrong. that rule is intended so that the justice department does not take action in a covert case that is suddenly overt shortly before an election. why? because you don't want to influence the election when that person, the candidate, does not have an opportunity to get to trial. they won their day in court, just show that these allegations by the justice department are wrong. why is that inapplicable here? these are overt allegations where the justice department is actually asking for a day in court so the defendant has that opportunity to refute these allegations. it could not be more wrong headed. so issue number two for judge

that is, obviously, a democratic justice department, words you a part, trust whether justice department will take seriously criminal referrals key point same law has to apply to democrats republicans to trump people biden people the american people people like me democrats, do not believe we are seeing equal application of the law that is why i wrote the book "get trump" this is attempt to get one person, that is not the american way. maria: um-hmm yep alan we leave it there great to talk with you as always thank you, sir. alan dershowitz on a whole set of issues thank you, sir. stay with us. we'll be right back. you are watching "mornings with maria" live on fox business. ♪ this girl is on fire ♪ ♪ this girl is on fire,♪ she is walking on fire,this girl is on fire ♪ . ♪(voya)♪ there are some things that work better together. like your workplace benefits and retirement savings. voya helps you choose the right amounts without over or under investing. so you can feel confident in your financial choices voya, well planned, well invested, well protected. business. it's not a nine-to-five pr

>> well a lot of people are thinking that perhaps in the end, the justice department and courts might my broached the issue of breaking up apa. right? that's not where the department is going right now but right what what they're asking a court to do essentially as essentially order apple to allow some of these apps and some these are the companies to be able to integrate you. we've all been on text messages with our family members, right. the dreaded >> right. blue versus green, right? >> just and right. exactly. and so that's the kind of thing that apple could really, according to the justice department, readily fix that. they're not doing >> richard. so merrick garland kind of spins apple's advertising against them saying there's an app for that. well, there's a law against monopolies what would apple's app store look like? how impactful could this lawsuit ultimately be for their finances >> i think with all these antitrust lawsuits, the thing you have to bear in mind where you start and where you finish are two very different things and that's the big risk for apple here, because

we subpoenaed the department of justice for audio recordings and transcripts of president biden's interview with special counsel hur. these were viewed the morning of the state of the union. only this morning, a couple of hours before today's hearing, the department of justice finally provided the transcript of president biden's interview with special counsel hur. the timing is not coincidental. although we had little time to review the transcripts from what we have seen, it is clear that the white house did not want special counsel hur's final report to be released. the white house refused to be transparent with the american people about the president's mishandling of classified documents. and worse, they have appeared to have lied about the timeline, about who handled the documents and even about the contents of president biden's interview with special counsel hur. that is why today's hearing is important, transparency is what we seek today, and we look forward to special counsel hur's testimony. i yield back. >> gentleman yields back. now mr. raskin for his opening statement. >> thank yo

considerable service for the public just in revealing the facts, but they also demonstrated the justice department's approach was deeply flawed. >> i want to ask you about this as somebody who has dealt with financial crimes. "the times" reports garland told prosecutors to focus on the money. department leaders believed the best way to justify prosecuting mr. trump and the willard plotters was to find financial links between them and the rioters because they thought it would be more straightforward and less risky than a case based on untested election interference charges. look, we have the benefit of evaluating that thinking in hindsight, didn't turn out to be true, but what do you think about the fact they started by taking that approach? let's connect the money. we hear about that all the time, follow the money. >> again, these things are not mutually exclusive. that's why the premise the defenders have adopted, it's simply not true. i mean let's just remember again trump was already on a recorded call before january 6th and it was apparent even from that call that trump might have criminal expos

our committee. the white house is seeking to block the testimony. we've also subpoenaed the department of justice for audio recordings and transcripts of the interview of hur. these were due the morning of the state of the union. only this morning a couple of hours before today's hearing the department of justice finally provided the transcript of president biden's interview with special counsel hur. the timing is not coincidental. we have had little time to review the transcript but it is clear the white house did not want special counsel hur's final report to be released. the white house refused to be transparent with the american people about the president's mishandling of classified documents. and worse, they have appeared to have lied about the timeline, about who handled the documents, and even about the contents of president biden's interview with special counsel hur. that's why today's hearing is important, transparency is what we seek today and look forward to special counsel hur's testimony. i yield back. >> chair recognizes the ranking member of the oversight committee mr. raskin for h

you yourself have said multiple times today that there was no a 10 to obstruct justice by the president, by the department of justice, by the attorney general. you had all of the resources that you needed to conduct a fair and thorough investigation and report and that what you concluded was in fact, the evidence was not sufficient to bring charges against the president for mishandling documents. thank you for being here today. i yield back. >> the gentleman from south carolina is back. >> mr. hur, why did officials go looking in the first place? >> why did they do it? >> what we identified during investigation is that at a certain date, members of the presidential staff went to the biden center to get a better handle on what kinds of evidence -- what kind of evidence was that the biden center. >> were they looking for documents that were classified? or was it a broader initial look? >> my understanding is it was a broader initial look and i am looking at chapter 14 of my report about a visit from march 2021 to the biden center. >> in march 2021 -- was this after the justice department began their investi

also criminal families in this situation so this is a very serious situation and i think the department of justice it's unfortunate but even the department of justice now siding not to investigate not edits thanks to bringing transparency to this but we have to get to the bottom. liz: we don't know at all, politico is not saying it james biden did but the implication is he's closely involved in this bankrupt hospital chain where he's accused, it doesn't look good all around. we appreciate you, thank you for joining us, it's good to have you back on. >> thank you for having me. liz: let's welcome to the show townhall political editor guy benson, we are dealing with a lot of stuff. first this story. you know how the president is on a victory tour claiming he created 15 million jobs and now we see fact checkers by me saying you did not. just because the pandemic lockdowns stopped so 22 million jobs lost in the economy welcome back. what's striking is employment in 16 u.s. states, a third of the country are still stuck below pre-pandemic levels. what you think? >> if you look at which states those are

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if we want of the justice department, i'm for grilling them.but you're one of the folks that we're giving you too little resources to do and too much work. and that is what i would like to jump into. i have a lot of frustrations going on. i watched you as professional struggle to meet the demands put on you in a moment where congress is not giving you the resources necessary to do your job even in facilities that are outrageously -- you said that you need $2.5 million for repairs. congress allocated $59 million. people are dieing in your facilities because there is you're spot on. and the number has grown. it is closer to $3 billion. we continue to have roofs that are crumbling. we continue to have hvacs that stopped working. and if you look at the money that we get from congress, it is about a hundred thousand dollars a year to solve that $3 billion problem. and the cost of one roof replacement is a million dollars. >> this say pattern here. you're employees could leave your job and not make 10 or 20% more but a ndred percent more. you know th

here's him at bedminster audio that the justice department and also has and is using in this case >> this president, i could have deep know, i can't get out, but this is is that interesting so dana, that discussion that trump had on that audio recording, >> it was something that prosecutors referred to during the hearing this morning. they're back after lunch and there's it's going to be more arguments being made back to you >> kaitlan. thank you so much for that. i want to welcome my legal guests on this and many more topics related to donald trump and his corp cases. cnn's paula reid and former florida judge jeff swartz. paul, i'm going to start with you here. sure. to kind of give it a big picture. look at what we're seeing here. what, first of all, what they're doing inside the courtroom today. i'm going to show our viewers a bit of the filing that the special counsel filed as it relates to this florida documents case, trump's immunity claim here is so wholly without merit that it is difficult to understand it except as part of a strategic effort to delay the court should deny th

also, he uses the justice department, the fbi, to go after his political opponent happens to we've me how are we doing? and he's driven my numbers through the roof to do it one or two more times since about a couple of more indictments, joe, you dms dove somebody said, they're indicting this guy in to the

right now we're keeping a very close eye on the justice department.rrick garland and other justice department officials to announce a

he served as the deputy attorney general at the department of justice. s department of he also clerked f kaczynski on the ninth circuit court of appeals. we welcome our witness and anappear today. mr. hur, would you please stand and reach a right-hand. do you swear under firm penalty of perjury that the testimony you are about to give is true and correct to the best of your knowledge , information, and belief, so help you god? let the record show that the witness has answered in the affirmative. thank you. you can be seated. please let it be known that your written testimony summarized. mr. hur, you may begin with your opening statement. make sure you have got that mike on if you could. >> thank you chairman. sherman jordan, rag nadler, chairman comer, ranking member raskin, members of the committee, good morning. i am privileged to have served our country for the majority of my career, a decade and a half. most of those years with the department of justice. i have served as a line prosecutor, a supervisor, the principal associate deputy attorney general,

most of those years with the department of justice. i have served as a line prosecutor supervisor, the principal associate deputy attorney general, united states attorney and a special council. i've served in these roles with gratitude as the son of immigrants to this country, the 1st member of my family to be born here. my parents grew up in korea and were young children during the korean war. my father remembers being hungry and grateful for the food that americans you guys shared with him and his siblings. my mother fled what is now north korea in her own mother's arms heading south to safety. my parents have actually met married and came to the us, seeking a better life for themselves and for their children. their lives and mine would have been very different, were it not for this country no matter the role, no matter the administration, i have applied the same standards and the same impartiality, my respect for the justice department and my commitment to this country, or why i agreed to serve as special counsel when asked by the a

i think this is something that is that i think as a justice because i cover the department of justice, we become more cognizant as a group of and we talk about it as a group more as being very blunt in our coverage you know, when we write about trump and his attempts to delay his criminal cases, we say so. and, you know, including your colleague at the times that lay down on fire like we have started to write in very blunt terms. if you know the reason why trump wants to delay, not because he thinks he's actually got a case for presidential immunity, because he knows that if the circuit take it up, if the supreme court takes it up and, he can delay these beyond the election. he can appoint an attorney general that will dismiss charges what he will try and self-pardon and i think it's very difficult. right. like kind back to trump in real time for instances by a who's a lawyer good luck. i mean i also think to just the both sides as i'm like not every story needs to follow the same structure of there is a conflict here's what republican ace says here's what democrat says and they are t