he could tell the same story about mike lee and the same story about ted cruz justin amash.here's a number of young libertarian were leaning republicans that beat the system and get outspent sometimes five to one. i think that's one indication of this paradox it. >> host: those guys are in washington because of this shi shift, tea party libertarian technology, social media. have they given us anything besides high-profile filibuster's? is there a legislative and a policy when? >> guest: the conversation is fundamentally different today and steering the government is like steering the titanic and we are hoping it we can turn at the port hits the iceberg. would we have had a robust talk about obamacare? would we be trying to do any of these things without this? today you look at any republican running for office including mitch mcconnell. he's talking tea party talking points. he is talking about freedom and fiscal responsibility. they were doing that before. that's not to say that we are winning because i think we have a ways to go but i do think politics is the last thing th

but you could tell the same story about mike lee, ted cruz, justin amash. there's a number of young libertarian-leaning republicans that have beat the system ask been outspent sometimes 5 to 1. and i think that's sort of one indication of this paradigm shift. >> host: those guys are in washington because of this shift, tea party, libertarian, technology, social media. but have they given us anything besides a couple high-profile filibusters? is there a oil win? >> guest: the can conversation fundamentally different here, and steering big government is a little bit like steering the titanic, and we're hoping we can turn it before we hit the iceberg. would we have been talking about the national debt, would we have had a robust argument about obamacare, would we be trying to do any of these things without this? today you look at any republican running for office, including mitch mcconnell, talking tea party talking points. he's talking about freedom, he's talking about fiscal responsibility. they weren't doing that before. that's not to say that we're winning