i think justin amosh, the representative from michigan, republican, has come around to this positionover the years and i think that lindsey graham has been mostly reasonable over the years on this issue although he goes back and forth on this. there have been numerous democrats. the democratic party is basically changed its support from -- it used to support border walls and now it's very skeptical and is generally in favor of increasing lawful immigration. but these things change quite a bit over time. we saw realignment occur sort of in 2015 and '16 within the republican party so that's where it stands currently. who knows where it will stand in a couple years. host: virginia beach, virginia, anthony, an independent. good morning. caller: yes, good morning. let me say this. i think this whole issue is being pushed to the side. if walls are immoral, let's tear down the walls. number two, if all these people coming in are so beneficial for us, why don't we just open the borders instead of going through this back and forth, to and fro? furthermore, what are they running from? are they