host: justin bogie is a senior analyst at the heritage foundation, studying fiscal affairs. he joins us to discuss this number. trillion joining us this morning to discuss this in number 22,059,995,000,000 and counting, the current u.s. national debt. justin bogie, put that number in perspective . >> it's a laborious number, and put that in perspective, if we divided it amongst every person in the u.s., they'd already have a $67,000 share of the national debt. over the next 10 years it's expected to climb another $30,000 per person. it's a huge number and overwhelming for many to think about. most families certainly couldn't sustain $100,000 in debt, i don't think so it's a question of how does the u.s. government do that? >> before we answer that, how did we get here? >> i think it's a lot of factors, over the last 10 years or so debt has climbed about $10 trillion and some of that has to do with stimulus packages that were passed under bush and obama and we've had the budget control caps in place with several deals to amend those and increase spending by hundreds of delusi

discussion about policies and reducing the national debt with the heritage foundation's justin bogie. then, we talk about u.s. venezuela relations with florida international university of latin and caribbean center director frank mora. and president trump's border emergency declaration, is discussed by university of texas at austin law professor stephen vladek. be sure to watch c-span washington journal, live at 7 am eastern, tuesday morning. join the discussion. >> watch c-span wednesday night for live coverage president trump's visit to vietnam as he resumes talks with north korea's kim jong un. live on c-span, c-span.org, and listen with the free c-span radio app spirit before heading to vietnam for his summit with north korean leader kim jong un, president trump marked african-american history month with a reception at the white house. from last week, this is 20 minutes. and mrs. trump.

host: on foreign aid, justin bogie.uest: the fact of the matter is the social security program is on track to go insolvent and it won't have money to pay off beneficiaries. if we don't start taking these steps now to change that we are going to get to the point where there is either a larger benefit cut for everyone out there, or we see a huge increase in taxes to cover the liabilities. i don't think either of those options is what is best for america, that's why we need to start addressing this now, instead of kicking the can down the road. on foreign aid, i think we spend a lot of money overseas and that is something we need to continue to look at. one of the problems with the federal budget is that we have all of these programs out there, foreign aid included where we have segments of them that are unauthorized, meaning congress does not re-up these programs every year. like they are supposed to, on a schedule. they are allowed to continue on and on when we need to think about are they still relevant? are they servin

our next guest to discuss, heritage foundation senior policy analyst, justin bogie along with center for american progress economic data, managing your come in green. gentleman thank you for joining us. eight states now plus the aclu planning to sue the administration over the national emergency declaration. this can get pretty long, pretty ugly. how do you see the sending up? >> the court will have to do the right anchor the constitution is clear that congress has the power of the. the congress passed appropriations bills into law that provides the president authority to move money between certain accounts. but the president did not have authority to move the money as he is doing and so he is in clear breach of the law in the constitution and the vast majority of the american people do not support him on this. it's wrong and the courts will strike it down. lauren: justin, the president says he expects to be sued. he will take us all that to the court. would expect to see happen there? >> i think it's disappointing congress could work with the president signed a resolution that would

host: justin bogie is a senior analyst at the heritage foundation, studying fiscal affairs. he joins us to discuss this number. trillion joining us this morning to discuss this in number 22,059,995,000,000 and counting, the current u.s. national debt. justin bogie, put that number in perspective . >> it's a laborious number, and put that in perspective, if we divided it amongst every person in the u.s.,