we have lisa gibson and a allis, and anne marie rogers and in the back row pilar ralilali, and justin greving and desiree smith. and monica jacamoche. and they were integral in putting together your packet and is here to answer any technical questions around the historic preservation program of the department. so with that i'll hand it over to you and we'll have two short presentations today related to your items. naturally, we're here to answer any comments or questions that you may have throughout the morning. thanks. >> clerk: i think we have a staff presentation on item one. >> good morning, commissioners. i'm department staff. this is just a short presentation that has been put together to provide a general overview of the historical review process, and with the following discussion that your commissioners want to have between the historic preservation commission and the planning commission. to point out that the department would be happy to provide additional information on the process generally and historic review process more specifically to either commission in the future. so the his

. >> thank you, i want to compliment justin greving and mya small and staff, because i do think that this has come quite a long way. i have been working as an architect in san francisco for almost 30 years now. there was a time in the 1990s when there were -- they were called guidelines but they were actually laws. like, you have to set back 15 feet. it doesn't matter what the building is, it doesn't matter that the structure line is at 14 feet, it didn't matter. so this has come a really long way into the sensitivity that, you know, every building is unique and every time, you know, a client comes to me with their latest acquisition, it's like, oh, crap what we'll do now because this is so different from the last one that we did. so i really appreciate that, you know, the direction that this has taken and like commissioner black mentioned that it's broad enough that it gives us a lot of opportunity as architects to work with our clients and to make good buildings which is often lost in the watered down version after it's been hammered by the staff and it gets to commission and it ge

. >> thank you, i want to compliment justin greving and mya small and staff, because i do think that this has come quite a long way. i have been working as an architect in san francisco for almost 30 years now. there was a time in the 1990s when there were -- they were called guidelines but they were actually laws. like, you have to set back 15 feet. it doesn't matter what the building is, it doesn't matter that the structure line is at 14 feet, it didn't matter. so this has come a really long way into the sensitivity that, you know, every building is unique and every time, you know, a client comes to me with their latest acquisition, it's like,