this is written by justin hyde to joins us now. could you talk about the cash for clunkers program an its role as far as the efforts by the administration to stabilize the economy? >> well, it didn't have a starring role when the plan to stabilize the economy came out but it has taken on one in the past few days. this has been one of the more successful stimulus pack ams, wildly successful, far more than anyone in the administration and most people in the industry thought it would be. it was supposed to fuel 250,000 new car and truck sales, estimated to run through november 1. late thursday, the administration got word that they might have already hit that 250,000 number and the program could be running low or out of cash. the white house scrambled to piece together a new package. host: as far as the run on the dealers are concerned, how is that fueled? what caused this? guest: there were more people sitting on the sidelines waiting to take advantage than anyone anticipated. one of the better estimates is that there were at least 4