, i can't even rumored exactly what your question was, but the relationship between trump and justin kennedywas long and multifaceted. anthony kennedy would often come by deutsche banks offices and talk to kennedy and his colleagues and give people hugs. he was a known presence in the deutsche bank offices. i don't want to spoil the ending of the book, but it comes back to this at the end because kennedy leaves the supreme court. without giving anything away i will say that's not entirely unrelated to the work his son had done at the bank many years earlier. [inaudible] >> excuse me? [inaudible] >> microphone. microphone. >> this is reminding of the conversation i had with my husband ten years ago one of trump's more high-profile bankruptcies when my husband and i and i were worth more than on trump was at the time. i'm really interested in following up on the conversation from the federal reserve gentleman here. what, if any, action has the german banking regulators of the european banking regulators taken against deutsche bank, given the recklessness, not just in this case with trump but t

>> everyone is interested in justin kennedy, which is justice kennedy's son. he was out of deutsche bank for about ten years from my figure t was 98 or 99 until 2009 and he was in what was called the commercial real estate business of the commercial banks at his job is to make big commercial real estate loans and then package the loans into bonds which then got sold to investors and his role was to basically handle the second half of the process rather than the first half so he wasn't the one coming out saying you and you and you. he was saying if we lend to you and you this is how we will be able to kind of package them and sell it and our expectation based on how we are going to sell it and structure affects how much money we can afford and the interest rate. it sounds technical and complicated as a part of the lending process. kennedy had a strong personal relationship with donald trump and ivanka trump as well and most notably i think did a 640 million-dollar loan to trump to build a huge skyscraper in chicago and kennedy was one of the lead plaintiff men