and ceo of hinge, justin macleod. justin has a dating at that competes with tinder. helps: hinge is an apple you meet people for dating and relationships, mainly friends of friends. cory: as we sort through this, there are all sorts of tidbits. i find it fascinating most of because i stopped dating the time these things started up. what did you find when you looked through this filing? going to be a big deal for barry diller and iac. iac will control 86% of the company. it's a company that has a lot of growth rate, if you take a look at the monthly average user growth and their paid membership growth, converting the monthly average users -- cory: 59 million users? justin: that's been growing strong the last couple years. growth, converting the monthly average usersthe key business mr them to convert those users who come to their various sites into paying customers that will pay a subscription fee. that's one of the big growth drivers for them going forward. cory: it seems to me the success of a dating website is bad business for a dating website. if your people fall