i'm not talking about sending you off somewhere to juvi.on't want you to look at it like being sent away. if you want to do it, i want to make it a available to you. i'd like you to go to a place that i know about that's called turn-about ranch. it's a therapeutic school environment. i'd like for you to go. i'll tell you, you can stay as long as you want. if you got there and decided i don't like this, okay. you're not being sent away somewhere. it's something that i would do for you, not to you. you wanted to leave, you could leave. if you wanted to stay, you can stay. it is a stunningly beautiful place with really nice people and really good therapists that can really help you with your anger, can help you with what you want to do to take care of you and gives me a chance to work on these guys. i asked kristin hayes. she's from the aspen education group. she's here because she can talk about this a little bit. kristin, what do you want to say? >> sometimes it takes a removal from your comfort zone to really affect change and to remove you

they can put you in juvi or whatever. you do a felony home invaccination, you can go to prison. those old gals are serious. >> what you're not getting is you took what i said and put the bad into a video. i mean, the whole interview was said, you'd know exactly what happened. it wasn't just me. it's me and a group of friends. my friends pulled her out of the shower and whooped her. the girl will fight back. yeah, we did. we jumped her and she went back. it was equal combat. it's not -- >> dr. phil: what part of the context is missing? she stole your phone or -- >> she stole my friend's phone. >> dr. phil: it wasn't your phone? >> no. it wasn't my phone. i was the ride. >> dr. phil: pardon me? >> i was the ride. >> dr. phil: so you went over to somebody's house and they didn't answer so you just went in. so what part of the context am i missing? >> um -- >> dr. phil: sorry? >> i'm going to get there. you're pulling the bad out of it you're -- >> dr. phil: tell me the good part of that. >> there is no good part of it. what i did was wrong. what my friends did was wrong. >> dr. phi

. >> even in their own words it's hard to unravel the mind of a juvie. our producers met 18-year-old stedman baird in the original lockup pendleton. >> last time we were here, it was summer and you were out in the cage. and now it's snowing and winter and where are you? >> back here. i got out, though, for a couple of months but i came back for battery. >> what made you do that? >> i don't know, just got into it with someone. >> you have seen your mom? >> not since she came to see me coach. i don't really like seeing my family in here. >> how do you feel about getting out? >> i'm nervous but anxious. i don't know what it will be like out there. it's been three years. i don't know what it will be like. i don't know. life one day at a time. you make mistakes, you have to learn from your mistakes. >> he could be acting just fine while here's in school and then the very next second he could be having an outburst and be hurting someone. and it just comes out of nowhere. you don't ever give up because you never know what's going to work today that didn't work

>> you get caught, then you're going to juvie. >> what about your mom?d cry. >> and hurt. >> and hurt. yeah. >> and you shaking your head so you know that can happen to your mother, too. >> yeah. >> okay. then y'all you know this, why would you put yourself in that situation? >> maybe we got to take a risk sometimes. >> take a risk sometimes? >> yeah. >> you don't think about it. that's the part about being a juvenile. you're not fully thinking of what you're doing. you're just trying to be cool. you're trying to fit in. i'm real offended by what you said, and i'm putting myself in your mama's shoes right now. you telling me you willing to sell your momma out for whatever it is you think you needed. what were you robbing from? >> it's worth it. you must really want it. if you're taking a risk to do it. >> i don't know what you say is worth it. ain't nothing worth my momma to me, nothing. you guys ain't really paying attention how you hurting your mom. >> monroe never realized how his crimes would hurt his own mother until the day he was sentenced. >> whe

they each admit their old juvie ways meant nothing but trouble. >> it's all individually.e can tell them all day every day what to do and, like, how to stay out of trouble and stuff, but it's on the person to do it. and some people just, they got to go through this to learn. >> if you're going to break the law, you're going to do it. >> got your mind set. >> people tried to talk to us. people try to, you know what i'm saying, work with us. we wanted to do it. we wanted to do. we wanted to rob. we wanted to use drugs, wanted to sell drugs. wanted to tote guns. it's what we wanted to do. >> does going to adult prison scare you more than anything? >> no, to be honest, i'd probably rather be in adult prison than here. this is daycare. people are going to argue fight and stuff but prison is more for me than this place is. i ain't never been there, but from what my dad told me. >> stuff pops off in prison, it's brief. then right back to nothing. >> but out is where you really want to be. >> yeah, out. >> i ain't going to prison. i don't care what nobody says. >> i'd rather be fr